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Religious Exemption Workshop: A Jewish Perspective - Shared screen with speaker view
Ellen Osuna
35:26
Hi everyone .. thank you for doing this .. this open letter from Dr Byram Bridle of Canadian Covid Care Alliance is beautifully written ... (Bridle got the biodistribution studies from Japan) file:///home/chronos/u-752fae0b88d5d4378edda793feaa8f25fe820a18/MyFiles/Downloads/2021-09-17%20-%20Open%20letter%20to%20the%20president%20of%20the%20U%20of%20G_B.Bridle.pdf
Mila M
35:40
Will the recording be provided to us?
Allyson Marks
35:57
Anyone from St John's already denied? My RE was rejected last week. I am faculty....
Marianna Babayeva
36:02
if one spouse got the vaccine, can the other spouse apply for the RE?
Ofer Shaked
36:27
Did NYS block religious exemptions ?Can we even submit one in NYS ?
Keren Shad
36:34
Is this information relevant to California citizens?
Ellen Osuna
36:47
Wondering if religious exemptions could be applicable for landlord evictions or denial of health insurance? (thinking ahead into this distopia, landlord in Florida already trying evictions)
Bella Mavashev
38:12
hi guys, as the deadline is approaching tomorrow, for nyc doe teachers, can someone please provide scriptures to connection with vaccines, TIA
Sharon Malave
39:59
Who do we submit the religious exemption letter to? EEOI??
Michelle Racer
40:14
What can be the response for somebody fired from job in nyc for key to nyc. No religious exemptions allowed to begin with...
Valerie Domenech
42:15
Yes, everyone will receive the link to the recording in a couple of days.
Malkita Rosenfeld
43:13
we need it sooner. for those who got denials Friday, we need the info here to write a strong appeal
Malkita Rosenfeld
43:23
which is tomorrow
Vanessa and Ray Castro
43:42
thank you this is the question I wanted to ask. on Testing!
Valerie Domenech
44:24
I will send the link as soon as the recording is processed.
Allegra Shaab
44:25
We are all on the same page rabbi, however we are not in a position to make this change.
Bob
44:50
I read on the DOE site that they are not approving exemptions that it is very difficult…anyone have any success?
Vivian Gandolfo
46:11
Why do you think why they want to test everyone?
Bella Mavashev
46:48
Bob, they are denying everyone. then we have to get lawyer to appeal. just submit by tomorrow
Sarah Buzaglo
46:48
everyone who submitted religious exemptions got denied.....what now ?
Amy Baez
46:52
My employer is asking if I have ever received an immunization in the past. If yes please provide an explanation detailing any changes in religion, belief, or observance? This feels invasive and like entrapment. Is this legal?
Yadira Lopez
47:27
where are we submitting the exemptions letter? to Whom?
Allegra Shaab
47:43
Because the vaccine is a lie... it’s a shot to minimize symptoms, NOT eliminate covid
Sharon
48:00
I have been vaccinated in the past. This is going to be a concern
Amy Baez
48:39
I was vaccinated as a child.
Norman Hauptman
50:22
T E S T I N G I S T H E N E W C O E R C I O N
Malkita Rosenfeld
51:05
so what is the best approach what to do??
Allyson Marks
51:31
you are right Rabbi, we will all loose the RE eventually, what can we be doing? I will not comply!
Norman Hauptman
51:42
T E S T I N G I S T H E N E W C O E R C I O N T O C O N T R O L H U M A N I T Y - U S E Y O U R D I V I N E I M A G E T O U N I FY O U R S E L V E S
Vanessa and Ray Castro
52:20
Amen
Ellen Osuna
52:40
good point about testing .. i had thought compared to the vax testing is no big deal .. the one test i had was easy .. but he makes sense ..
Martha Suero
53:23
Amen Rabbi!!
Malkita Rosenfeld
53:35
testing isn't the real.solution....but career change isn't always possible or practical
Holly Burroughs
53:54
my employer (a school) said that they are not excepting any Religious Exemptions
Amy Baez
55:36
Amen Rabbi
Norman Hauptman
55:48
ALL NOW ON ZOOM MUST COLLABORATE AS A UNIT. HOW DOW WE DO THAT?
Bella Mavashev
56:24
rabbi. please provide scriptures from the Torah in relation to the ingredients of vaccines
Lana Belyavina
58:22
Can you recommend anyone who can review my exception letter I put together?
Chaya shagalow
58:49
how do i go about writing a religious exemption?
Francine Waldbaum
58:55
thank you Rabbi
Allyson Marks
59:03
Thank you Rabbi, Amen. Do you know of congregations that are joining in person, I left my congregation due to the vax mandate
Leah Zilberman
59:10
Thank you,Rabbi
Brucha Weisberger
59:13
That was absolutely amazing BH
Martha Suero
59:14
Thank you Rabbi!!
Holly Burroughs
59:16
thank you Rabbi
Chaya shagalow
59:32
that was incredible, thank you Rabbi
Cayle White
59:37
Thank you Rabbi, Chag Sukkot Sameach!
Frances Gozland
59:38
Thank you Rabbi Smith.
Rabbi Yitzchok Dovid Smith
59:47
There are many congregations of brave people meeting in person. Email me at passaicclarity@gmail.com and we can try to link you up.
Tara Marano
59:59
Thank you, Rabbi. Beautiful.
Nechama Gross
01:00:25
Thank you Rabbi!
Rabbi Yitzchok Dovid Smith
01:00:45
There are always more than a binary choice in G-d’s world.
Sarah Wiesel
01:00:48
Can someone help with the denial for religious exemption
Sarah Wiesel
01:01:20
They denied it because it placed an undue burden on the department of education
Amy Baez
01:01:44
That's right! Thank you Rita!
Bella Mavashev
01:02:13
yes Sarah, once they deny us, what are our next steps for DOE?
Rachel Gordon
01:03:25
Has anyone here (healthcare provider) had approval of exemption?
Brucha Weisberger
01:03:48
Here’s an email that we can use to join together:info@macabim.orgWe are in the middle of building a website called Macabim.orgPlease email
Sarah Buzaglo
01:04:48
New York State Executive Law, Article 15, Human Rights Law, Section 209-29
Brucha Weisberger
01:04:52
BH we make events and distribute materials to try to help wake up the community and we need all of you to join us and help wake up Klal Yisrael
Sarah Buzaglo
01:04:58
what of this law
Vivian Gandolfo
01:05:32
I had to sign a consent to the Covid test but didnt take the test yet for my company, can I still provide the religious exemptions?
Amy Baez
01:06:34
I'm in Connecticut. 😔
Nana Stark
01:06:41
I'm from California - please look this up for me thank you!
Brucha Weisberger
01:06:59
Georgia law please
P. L.
01:07:44
So DiBlasio's mandate is illegal?
Shoshana A
01:08:06
I work for home care and they go by the DOH mandates. how can that be false?
Allison
01:08:12
What is the NJ statute against discrmination in the workplace? Thank you
Sharon
01:08:30
Can we use the same letter that we write for our children? Or should we write an entire different letter?
Vivian Gandolfo
01:08:40
Who do oyou hand your letter to at work?
Michelle Racer
01:09:28
How does religious rights allowance according to nys law figure into the key to nyc mandate by deblasio where he doesn't allow for religious exemptions at all?
Allyson Marks
01:09:29
I followed the step from mykidsmychoice, and was rejected by St Johns. I did not include a letter from clergy, please help!
Ashley Lewis Presser
01:09:56
For those of us that had letters for their children's exemptions prior to changes in the NY law, can we use that letter or part of it? Is it helpful to have confirmation that that exemption was previously approved to support the sincerity aspect?
Anne Mayer
01:10:09
DOE is stating religious exemptions must be accompanied with clergy approval/documentation. Is this factual?
Anne Mayer
01:11:14
Any Class Action Lawsuits for Teachers? Will Medical Class action lawsuit help all of us?
Rita Palma
01:11:41
mykidsmychoice.com
Stephanie Shulman
01:11:55
Double spaced?
Sarah Buzaglo
01:12:24
double spaced ?
Cynthia Malek
01:13:21
I'm a halachic convert to Judaism---18 years ago.
Vivian Gandolfo
01:14:45
I am Catholic, I can still write a religious exemption?
Valerie Domenech
01:15:24
Yes, Vivian.
Chaya shagalow
01:18:11
can any of this help our kids/us from not being masked in school?
Robert .
01:20:10
cow/pork serum...would being a vegetarian be worth mentioning or is that outside the scope of a religious exemption?
Chelsea Arthur
01:21:00
Can I get this recording please - This is so sad and true.
Shoshana A
01:21:08
see also Jewish pro life foundation.org for more anti abortion sources
Rondi
01:21:10
could you post the link to the website you are referring to?
Brucha Weisberger
01:21:38
Will the links you post here be somehow available in the recording as well?
Shoshana A
01:21:55
Jewishprolifefoundation.org
Lana Belyavina
01:22:00
I’m vegan, can I mention that it was the reason that pushed me to research more about vaccine and then realizing how the aborted tissue is linked to judaism religion?
Shoshana A
01:22:57
412.758.3269 Jewish pro life foundation, Cecily
Valerie Domenech
01:23:03
www.mykidsmychoice.com
Chana Rennert
01:24:14
can i use a leterfrom a rabbi who says it forbiden without a rason why and then i make my my request bsade on the rbbis determination and explain once the rabbi says it it forbiden then it doesnr make a differance why i might not even know the reason why but i folow the rabbi and that
Gordon Kobayashi
01:24:48
The Church of Illumination (soul.org) is the most strongly opposed to mandatory vaccinations. But I think you have to apply to join first.
Amy Baez
01:26:30
My turning point was autism
Sarah Buzaglo
01:26:52
IS THE LETTER SUPPOSED TO BE DOUBLE SPACED ?
Rebecca Geltzer
01:27:26
Why not?
Holly Burroughs
01:28:03
can you write your RE to also include testing
paula hashmall
01:28:13
What about the fact that the vaccinations are trying to over ride God's plan. IE, not the ingredients, but rather the intent of people, medicine, 'science' trying to do God's job?
jessica titan
01:28:14
what about mentioning that this vaccine is not by definition a vaccine and is basically a formula
Malkita Rosenfeld
01:28:16
what about those who already got denials
Amy Baez
01:28:18
Yes. This is what I testified to at our legislative meeting .
Jason Jacob
01:29:01
If a rabbi wrote a RE for me. Is that sufficient?
Anne Mayer
01:30:22
what about saying I’m not against Authorized effective and safe FDA Vaccines not employing fetal tissue in it’s ingredients or creation?
Robert .
01:30:35
can you talk about the healing power of G-d and relying on that, or, serious question, do you open yourself up to be asked if you take aspirin?
Anne Mayer
01:30:40
Rather Approved?
Rochel Elishevitz
01:34:49
According to Halacha is it REALLY forbidden to inject fetal tissue. Doesnt kosher law appy only to ingesting?
Gordon Kobayashi
01:37:01
https://www.coronavirusanddiet.com/
Laura
01:38:50
Please add testing rationale as well, including saliva if possible
B B
01:39:05
But what about medicine ?
Donna
01:39:12
What is my job accepts religious exemption but wants me to wear mask and undergo regular testing?
Anne Mayer
01:40:00
What if vaccines don’t have fetal tissue in them?
paula hashmall
01:40:03
How do you explain that cataract surgery is ok and not a betrayal of God's protection, for example?
Shira Kirschner
01:40:15
Could they make the argument that I have all the other vaccines so why not this one? You can’t vaccinate anymore once you get a religious exemption?
Shoshana A
01:40:58
testing chemical is ethylene oxide, antifreeze ingredients!
Francine Waldbaum
01:42:02
so do not mention testing at all in the religious exemption letter?
Chaim Leiter
01:42:04
they have swobs that don't use ethylene oxide
Allyson Marks
01:42:13
what about the ones asking for letter from clergy?
Russell Areman
01:42:46
What about spouses who disagree and want children to receive some vaccines?
Tziviah Toran
01:43:09
Is there a way to ask for a religious exemption using the sythetic code argument, i.e., synthetic genetic code without including all vaccines?
Laura
01:43:20
And saliva rationale? How can you support for saliva testing?
Shira Kirschner
01:43:30
What if you vaccinate but just don’t want to take this one?
Ellen Osuna
01:44:15
-what if have previously been tested?
B B
01:44:19
Most rabbis allow vaccination .. is it wise to quote specific rabbis that have advised me not to vaccinate ?
Alisa Schwell
01:44:20
What if I’m in healthcare and already have given vaccines to others and have had to go through multiple covid tests?
Rachel Gordon
01:44:46
What if your letter is supporting the safety for you to be in healcare environment bec you had a test and was positive so have G-d given immunity.
Anne Mayer
01:44:52
They are asking for clergy letter - what about this?
Gordon Kobayashi
01:44:57
Is the Halal Code similar to the Jewish one?
Sharon
01:45:29
I’m in trouble. I am totally against vaccination but Irecently consumed prescription meds. It’s a conflict of interest. Can a letter still be successful?
Rita Palma
01:46:46
There is a significant difference between helping a body in crisis and perfomring a medcial procedure on a healthy body.
Brucha Weisberger
01:47:00
Can we use just a medical exemption letter instead of religious exemption? Are those accepted?
jessica titan
01:47:23
as mentioned above , can we mention that i am not against vaccination in general , just the covid one ? can i mention this in the letter
Sarah Buzaglo
01:48:04
when you say six pages, what format ?
Sarah Buzaglo
01:48:14
double spaced ? sinlge spaced ?
Amy Baez
01:48:20
mumps
Jill Bankhalter
01:48:32
Can we say that I found out that the Carona v is a departure from all previous vaccination in my family as I have understood them to be since it is mRNA tech and not weakened form of a virus ...
Rachel Gordon
01:48:36
so flu vaccine is out as well? they are produced the same way?
Brucha Weisberger
01:48:37
brucha’s. I learned there is too much wiggle room with medical. No wiggle room with your relationship with G-
Rita Palma
01:48:38
Medical exemptions are very difficult to get in Ny. You can try and if it does not get accepted, submit a RE. You can have both types of objections. After all, why would you write a 8 page disstertation ontheir religious beliefs unless they had to? If you can take of the exemption with a doctors note, that would be preferable.
Gordon Kobayashi
01:48:45
Was the CASE LAW against vaccinations already been covered?
Mike
01:48:48
Is there a due date for RE for school teachers state wide?
Robert .
01:49:10
thank you Giulia
Rita Palma
01:49:28
I don't know of a NYS due date for RE for teachers.
Leah Zilberman
01:49:51
Thank you Gulia
Sarah Buzaglo
01:50:04
yes
Sarah Buzaglo
01:50:07
tomorrow
Sarah Buzaglo
01:50:11
SEPTEMBER 20
Sarah Buzaglo
01:50:18
DEADLINE FOR NYCDOE EMPLOYEES
Rachel Gordon
01:50:19
healthcare also tomorrow
Sarah Buzaglo
01:50:20
5PM
Anne Mayer
01:50:33
DOE is requiring the religious exemption be given a rubber stamp by your clergy. What if you don’t have clergy? After all Churches and Synagogues were shut down and non essential?
Rondi
01:51:30
maybe if he turns off his video and we just hear his voice; that often works.
Ruth Seliger
01:51:49
how get this done by tomorrow?
Rita Palma
01:52:41
Teacherforchoice.org is recommending everyone to adhere to the Sept 20 deadline of submission. A lawsuit challenging what the NYC DOE is doing is imminent.
Rita Palma
01:53:20
We realize there will be restrictions on teacher who don't vaccinate. One battle at a time.
Chaim Leiter
01:53:22
is there any paperwork that needs to be filed olongside with my 6 page prompt?
Gershon B
01:53:40
I work as a RN for the DOE. Where did the 9/20 deadline come from? Should I not submit it if I do not get it in by then? This is pretty last minute to hear about such a dealine
Rita Palma
01:53:59
I would submit something to adhere to the Sept 20 deadline.
Sarah Buzaglo
01:54:12
They emailed about the deadline when the arbitraryor came out of it
Anne Mayer
01:54:30
They say they wont even entertain a personal exemption without clergy can someone please address this important issue
paula hashmall
01:54:42
But many of us don't keep kosher but still expect a religious exemption
Arlene Potash
01:55:03
That PSA of several rabbis extorting people to get the vaccine wasn’t helpful.
Rita Palma
01:55:09
You have til momorrow to submit a leter for RE.
Valerie Domenech
01:55:11
Anne, I have your question and will ask our presenters at the end of the presentation.
Rita Palma
01:55:32
All the NYC DOE exemptions will be denied. Across the board. Don't panic. They will be sued.
Leah Reizes
01:55:43
if I work as P3 in private school- is that considered working for nycdoe?
Anne Mayer
01:55:54
Thank you!
Cheryl Torand
01:56:05
Please address the following:the DoE is saying not to be personal but something from clergy or institution
Valerie Domenech
01:56:43
Yes, Cheryl, I have that question.
Brucha Weisberger
01:57:43
is a problem when so many rabbis are not on board and employers know this.
Brucha Weisberger
01:57:44
Isn’t there some Halacha/law that if your life is in danger that you can take non kosher medicine? Would the other side argue that for pikuach nefesh (to save life) you’re allowed to do it??
Shoshana A
01:58:18
specific Halachos?
Anne Mayer
01:58:23
Thank you Rabbi
Gav Yarm
01:58:26
Rita and Giulia, would what the Rabbi suggests work? Submit a one page letter stating that you religious beleifs are to ask a Rabbi for any questions of religion. That the Rabbi ruled it was forbidden and then attach as an addendum your Rabbi's one page letter that merely states that it is forbidden.
Rita Palma
01:58:46
Ignore that requirement that the letter comes from clergy. It's a lie. Write your letter. Submit it. That strays so far from the Establishment Clause it's a joke. That will be challenged. This is about YOUR religious belief, not their arbitrary rules.
Rita Palma
01:59:45
Control the process, don't let them control it. If they give you a form, write on the form 'see attached letter' and submit your letter. Title VII and Articxle 15, Section 291, protects YOu, not them.
Rita Palma
02:00:16
Everyone should be going straight to the EEOC.gov and filing a complaint. Pre-emptively.
Gav Yarm
02:00:24
Not that it is required to have a rabbis letter - my question is if listening to your rabbi's ruling a sufficient reason in it of itself?
Gav Yarm
02:00:57
many consider that a religious obligation to follow his rulings
Brucha Weisberger
02:01:14
is that Title V11 for just Ny or country wide?
Ruth Seliger
02:01:20
can we mention nurumberg...??
Sara Goldberg
02:01:24
Just confirming- if one parent chooses to get a religious exemption, then their minor children must get the same and not receive vaccinations anymore till an adult out of their care? What if the second parent doesn’t get the exemption?
Sarah Wiesel
02:01:41
We are not allowed to write about our personal beliefs in doe
Robert .
02:02:20
https://will-law.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Letter-to-MTSD-Final.pdf
Vivian Gandolfo
02:02:23
Can we indicate the inaccuracy of the test? When I believe God is the 100% accurate in his words?
Anne Mayer
02:02:37
yes! defrocked
Ruth Seliger
02:03:16
can we mention nurumberg...??
Brucha Weisberger
02:03:26
doesn’t UNESCO article 6 in 2095 address our personal belief
Brucha Weisberger
02:03:37
sorry 2005
Sarah Buzaglo
02:03:41
can we mention these laws in our letter ?
Sarah Buzaglo
02:03:44
or is that political
Anne Mayer
02:04:03
How can we possibly expect ungodly to honestly evaluate our religious exemption reasons?
Brucha Weisberger
02:04:25
UNESCO declaration speaks of non discrimination of personal beliefs
Sarah Buzaglo
02:05:01
thank you so much!
Robert .
02:05:15
do you mention Title VII in the letter or is it assumed that is understood that you are exercising that right?
paula hashmall
02:05:25
Where does 'spiritual' fit in vs. religious?
jennifer errante
02:06:03
Should the religious exception come from my college student who just turned 18?
Gordon Kobayashi
02:06:20
CA Educators for Medical Freedom is preparing a major lawsuit and has a webinar tonight after this one ends
Gina Griff
02:06:22
Do you recommend attaching the law that explains you cannot ask for a clergy letter?
Anne Mayer
02:06:27
Does letter need to be notarized?
Nana Stark
02:06:54
Gordon - what is the site for the CA Eductors for Medical Freedom?
Rachel Gordon
02:07:41
really, here in NY, I cannot even find anyone in my hospital to talk to or get support from. maybe some nurses. out east NY almost everyone vaccinated
Sarah Wiesel
02:07:55
We only have 1 day to appeal it. What do we do now
Jason Jacob
02:08:00
What about healthcare workers? Was told RE will not be accepted
Eliana Shajnfeld
02:08:01
I work in Healthcare in NY. My employer put mandate before Cuomo. Exemption request deadline was Aug 1. My request was denied.
Chana Rennert
02:08:30
what law suit can i join as healthcare
Chana Rennert
02:08:30
w
Chana Rennert
02:08:31
or
Shoshana A
02:08:34
what about HIPAA laws, revealing to administration of I'm not vaccinated?
Eliana Shajnfeld
02:08:34
What should I do? Should I try to join a particular lawsuit?
Gordon Kobayashi
02:08:45
https://csudh.zoom.us/j/88450881532 You can try this link for the CA Educators webinar
Chana Rennert
02:09:00
what lawsuit can i join as a healthcare worker in a private hospital?
Shoshana A
02:09:06
what about HIPAA laws in patient charts that state the PT is or is not vaccinated?
Jason Jacob
02:09:15
Isn’t better to get fired instead of quitting?
Ellen Osuna
02:09:19
Question - do you foresee landlords requiring vaccination? Would RE be applicable in that instance? (thank you!)
Sharon
02:09:26
I don’t work for the DOE. I am an employee of the City of New York and have a very small garbage Union. Where do I turn? My Union isn’t suing anyone
Malkita Rosenfeld
02:10:07
if we got denied with the letter we gave from clergy, what do have to submit to the appeal? should we write the 6 to 8 page as an appeal?
Sarah Buzaglo
02:10:09
can we cite federal and state law in our letters ? or is that considered political ?
Robert .
02:10:23
any reports of employers asking for "interactive interviews" and is there any circumstance where you would agree to that?
Shoshana A
02:10:47
my employer said I will be put on leave of absence for up to 3 months staring on 10.7 and will not be eligible for unemployment when the leave expires. also, my health insurance will end on 10.31.
Shoshana A
02:10:55
starting
Valerie Domenech
02:11:03
www.EEOC.gov
Sarah Wiesel
02:11:15
They said it’s because doe can’t accommodate us do we appeal
Gordon Kobayashi
02:11:17
As far as masking goes, the Sono Pro from Israel is supposed to be better than the N95
Donna
02:11:28
I suggest that you put everything in writing to avoid hearsay
Jason Jacob
02:11:37
Which can I join for law action?
Rachel Gordon
02:11:49
How did the whole measles thing effect our case?
Mindy Leff
02:12:03
I just signed in How can I get recording?
Sharon
02:12:13
Very helpful. Thank you.
Irina Abramov
02:12:40
My employer's official Religious Exemption form has a sentence: " If I am denied the Religious Exemption I agree to be vaccinated."
Sarah Buzaglo
02:12:53
can we cite the laws / statutes / acts in our letters ? Or is that considered political and we shouldn't ?
Irina Abramov
02:12:58
If I sign this form it means I agree to that right?
Irina Abramov
02:13:30
SO is it better to send the exemption letter by itself without using their form?
Chaim Leiter
02:13:35
where do I send my religious exemption?
NW
02:13:39
How can we get the recording of this?
Ellen Osuna
02:14:02
that unvaxd are dangerous argument won't age well .. .https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
Mila M
02:14:14
Does the exemption letter need to be submitted to employer only?
Jill Bankhalter
02:14:31
What if my daughter will not be allowed in school without a booster of one of the other vaccines. Writing this will force me to possibly leave her without a school. Or I need a ppe to update my medical form for the special ed agency i work for- what to do?
Amy Baez
02:14:44
Thank you for answering my questions. I think I will be able to sleep tonight. Thank you Thank you thank you 😊
Martha Suero
02:15:15
A barber I know is not vaccinated and is not planning to get vaccinated. Some of his clients who are vaccinated come to him and ask him if he’s vaccinated before he cuts his clients hair. Is this legally ok to do as a client? He tells them yes he is vaccinated so that he won’t loose his customers. Is he protected by law?
Ruth Seliger
02:15:27
can we mention nurumberg codes?
Gordon Kobayashi
02:15:31
What I heard in another webinar is that the smallpox fatality rate was 40% during Jacobsen v. Mass. And 0.3% for Covid now. Anyway, a big difference
Anna Reydman
02:15:38
what if my employee doesn't put the new policy as of yet that would allow us to apply for religious exemption?. Where to submit it?
Maura Goodwin
02:16:19
Where do I submit the Religious Exemption Letter? Is the deadline tomorrow just for NYC or Long Island as well?
Sarah Buzaglo
02:16:45
deadline is for tomorrow
Sarah Buzaglo
02:16:53
for all nycdoe staff
Eliana Shajnfeld
02:17:24
One of my employer's did not have a religious exemption option so I uploaded my RE under the medical exemption tab. :)
Anne Mayer
02:17:48
What is that federal law that letter from clergy is not required? Freedom of religion constitution?
Sharon
02:17:58
Well, a lot more people are complying than not in NY
Anna Reydman
02:18:04
where the religious exemption should be submitted?
Ellen Osuna
02:18:13
https://consentfactory.org/
Maura Goodwin
02:18:18
Is there a deadline for Long Island as well?
Francine Waldbaum
02:18:45
Biden's speech was very scary and Deblasio;s key to NY is out of control
Malkita Rosenfeld
02:18:45
can u plz send this recording asap, need the info recap to write the letters
Sora Yisroel
02:19:05
Where do we go to receive recording of this workshop?
Mindy Leff
02:19:08
Yes I would like recording too
Sharon
02:19:10
How do we start a lawsuit if we stand alone?
Mindy Leff
02:19:16
How do we get it?
Sarah Buzaglo
02:19:16
submit your exemption on SOLAS
Sarah Buzaglo
02:19:48
1. can we include the laws and statutes in our letter or is it considered political and we should not include it ?
Amy Baez
02:19:50
I wish people would have gotten involved for the children. We might not be here today. 😔
Sarah Buzaglo
02:20:07
2. Should we have specific formatting? like single or double spacing ?
Marianna Babayeva
02:20:33
Valerie, my question was one of the first so I'm not sure if you didn't notice it but could you please ask the following? Thank you so much
Marianna Babayeva
02:20:48
if one spouse is vaccinated, can the other still file an RE?
Donna
02:20:53
FYI. It’s not a mandatory vaccine. It’s a mandatory policy.
Yadira Lopez
02:21:00
Where should doe employees submit the religious exemption letters?
Sarah Wiesel
02:21:01
Why are they also not acknowledge native antibodies
Maura Goodwin
02:21:09
I would like recording too
Sharon
02:21:11
Now the younger kids in the fall. It’s out of hand
Mila M
02:21:34
Is it enough to just submit the letter to employer?
Rachel Gordon
02:21:41
can we use G-d given natural immunity with recent covid about how we are safe and our immune system is working well. and that studies show its even better esp with Delta.
Shoshana A
02:21:43
my employer said I will be put on leave of absence for up to 3 months starting on 10.7 and will not be eligible for unemployment when the leave expires. also, my health insurance will end on 10.31.
Brucha Weisberger
02:21:51
not in NY. office won’t allow unvaxxed to come in to the office. Internet issues at home. not same support with office equipment.
Rachel Gordon
02:21:57
if feel like in healthcare medical talk helps
Chana Rennert
02:22:11
When I submit my exemption on SOLAS, do I click on request a leave or request accomadation?
Mindy Leff
02:22:40
What is solas
Rondi
02:22:48
What about god-given immunity if we have recovered from Covid?
Chana Rennert
02:23:07
SOLAS is the platform where you put your exemption request through, its for DOE employees
Brucha Weisberger
02:23:36
Someone requested that I post this question:The problem is they're gonna keep arguing that if you pose danger to society then we can do as we see fit
Mindy Leff
02:23:58
What if you got one vaccine but you don’t want to keep vaccinating
jennifer errante
02:23:59
Should RE’s be best come from the college student who just turned 18?
Mindy Leff
02:24:29
I did it once because wanted to attend my daughters wedding but didn’t want to
Allyson Marks
02:25:39
WE should all expect to have to reapply regularly anyway, if accepted
Jill Bankhalter
02:25:42
Why can’t we just focus on the betrayal of faith I learned that the mRNA vaccines are for me...
Sharon
02:25:47
Good point. My teenage daughter wants to get vaccinated. I am against vaccination.
Jill Bankhalter
02:26:01
And act dumb regarding the other vaccines
Gershon B
02:26:09
Does the CIR database include adults? Are vaccinated NY’ers in the database???
paula hashmall
02:26:31
What about an adult kid who's never been vaxed, so would have no turning point, can that person use reasons about having grown up with certain beliefs?
Allyson Marks
02:27:02
at St Johns, for employees, they want a signature from clergy
jennifer errante
02:27:33
Should a parent submit and RE to the college if their child just turned 18?
Gav Yarm
02:28:43
I asked about using as my 'personal reason' that my Rabbi ruled that it is forbidden. I can submit his letter saying that it is forbidden.My sincere religious belief is to rely on the rabbi who is learned.Is that enough? whoa re they to argue with my rabbi?
Robert .
02:28:44
from the EEOC: Title VII defines "religion" very broadly. It includes traditional, organized religions such as Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism. It also includes religious beliefs that are new, uncommon, not part of a formal church or sect, or only held by a small number of people.Some practices are religious for one person, but not religious for another person, such as not working on Saturday or on Sunday. One person may not work on Saturday for religious reasons; another person may not work on Saturday for family reasons. Under Title VII, a practice is religious if the employee's reason for the practice is religious.Social, political, or economic philosophies, or personal preferences, are not "religious" beliefs under Title VII.
Chelsea Arthur
02:28:57
What if you were given a deadline (Oct 1st) and they say you have to automatically resign. Letter from employer wasn’t even signed but if the person does not submit to weekly testing after Oct 1st and wear mask then person would have to automatically resign. Until letter is submitted and decided on and even after given the case they deny it, should the person still show up to work and wait to be fired?
Gordon Kobayashi
02:28:59
Do we need to write a separate exemption letter for testing IF we already agreed to weekly testing?
Anne Mayer
02:29:02
Can it translate over
Rachel Gordon
02:29:04
There are internet based links to Rabbis saying don't vaccinate. should we include this
Rachel Gordon
02:29:17
example https://www.emes.news/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Rabbonim-Lakewood-Large-1.pdf
Gershon B
02:29:33
I’m in the class action suit!!!
Chana Rennert
02:30:13
Are there any links to a healhtcare worker class action suit that I can join?
Ruth Seliger
02:30:30
can we mention nuremberg codes?
Sharon
02:30:32
How do I get In the class action suit? I don’t work for DOE?
Irina Abramov
02:30:35
What if its the other way around, my kids had an exemption for more than 10 years, but I kept vaccinating, should this be mentioned, saying that I was vaccinating because I was afraid to lose my job? Does this not weaken my faith argument?
Allyson Marks
02:30:44
Yes, are there any suits that we can join? How to find them?
debbie massre
02:30:58
can someone take a vaccine besides covid after they had filed a religious exemption and had gotten accepted for it?
Rachel Gordon
02:31:21
should we provide a link to the case that put a stay in NY
Rachel Gordon
02:31:24
NYS Court ruling enclosed-https://lc.org/091421NYTRO.pdf
Chana Rennert
02:31:43
what is the nuremburg code?
Gershon B
02:32:05
Email doeemployeesagainstmandates@gmail.com to join the class action suit!!
Rondi
02:32:11
Would it help to mention we recovered from Covid and have antibodies?
Nana Stark
02:32:42
Nuremburg 1947 - no one can be compelled or forced to take medication or a medical procedure without being advised of the risks.
Marianna Babayeva
02:33:06
We had an RE approved in NYC. My children have been home schooled since the repeal. I will review the letter that I wrote for my kids RE. Guilia helped us with final touches so thank you very much, Giulia. Rita, thank you so much for your guidance and all your help
Sarah Buzaglo
02:33:10
can we include the laws and statutes in our letter or is that considered political ? And should these six - eight pages be double spaced ?
Gav Yarm
02:33:23
becasue why give them anything to argue on?
Sarah Buzaglo
02:33:38
sorry...english teacher here
Sarah Buzaglo
02:33:40
:-p
jennifer errante
02:33:45
Should RE’s come from parents or kids 18 or older!!
Donna
02:33:50
If they reject your exemption, I heard you should not resign but let them fire you and you may be entitled to up to 2 years severance pay.
Mila M
02:33:56
Does the letter go to employer only?
Irina Abramov
02:34:08
What if its the other way around, my kids had an exemption for more than 10 years, but I kept vaccinating, should this be mentioned, saying that I was vaccinating because I was afraid to lose my job? Does this not weaken my faith argument?
Eliana Shajnfeld
02:34:13
The Nuremberg Code is a set of research ethics principles for human experimentation created by the U.S. v Brandt court as one result of the Nuremberg trials at the end of the Second World War. 
Russell Areman
02:34:16
I am a physician, I just had covid and had the immunoglobulin infusion which they told me after that I cannot get vaccinated for 3 months at least, I have it on paper and was going to initially file a medical exemption to buy some time. I have no intention of getting the vaccine. Should I file both medical and religious exemptions at the same time?
Ruth Seliger
02:34:16
link to submit RE pls
Gershon B
02:34:40
****Do we end with a Request or just state our intention?!?!?
Anne Mayer
02:35:09
The definition of vaccine was changed during covid pandemic.
Jason Jacob
02:36:08
What happens after the letter. Do we resign and get our paid vacation timer stay on without pay until are vacation time runs out and get terminated.
Sharon
02:36:12
I need to join a class action suit but I’m not a teacher.
Denise Elliott
02:36:33
why can't vegan be in the letter. it's against animal and the human fetus tissue?
Anne Mayer
02:36:38
How do we join Class action suite
Anne Mayer
02:36:51
DONT QUIT
Cheryl Torand
02:37:15
please post the my child my choice website
Rita Palma
02:37:40
You don't need to join the class action suit- benefit will be gained for all, even those not in the suit.
Gershon B
02:37:55
Where will they put the nurses though lol???!?
Sarah Wiesel
02:38:11
They already said they cannot accommodate us
Rita Palma
02:38:22
mykidsmychoice.com The site has all the materials and links. Please read read read it and write write write!
Sarah Wiesel
02:38:50
There is no remote option. How do we apply the the appeal for that
Lori
02:39:26
What is in the test that we are refusing?
Anne Mayer
02:39:50
Should Join the class action lawsuit? How?
Brucha Weisberger
02:40:07
I’m sorry I didn’t understand…if you submit RE for just the testing, what do you write for that?
Ruth Seliger
02:40:10
mykidsmychoice.com has link to submit RE?
Gina Griff
02:40:59
Can a religous and medical be handed in at the same time?
Cayle White
02:41:01
Thank you and G-d bless you all.
Ruth Seliger
02:41:14
omain
Robert .
02:41:19
You can keep a kosher diet and still work in Applebee's. If patients want to come in and you administer them a vaccine, that's their right, but it doesn't mean you have to take it.
Gordon Kobayashi
02:41:34
Could the magnitude of the upcoming lawsuits be taken to the International Criminal Court if needed?
Rita Palma
02:42:31
What do you mean, a link to submit the RE? To whom? The DOE?
Shoshana A
02:42:40
no you cannot work in a nonkosher place due to maras ayin, it looks bad, incongruous
Rebecca Geltzer
02:44:28
What if I submitted a medical exemption already? Will it look weird to put in a religious one too?
Shoshana A
02:44:32
what's the difference between nutritional supplements for prevention and vaccines which are also preventive
Ruth Seliger
02:44:46
mykidsmychoice.com has link to submit RE?
Gordon Kobayashi
02:45:45
What if you agreed to weekly testing to keep your job but you suspect a false positive? My school will use the swab testing?
Maribel Bennett
02:45:45
“According to the Jewish law, the prohibition on eating pork or using pork is only forbidden when it’s a natural way of eating it,” said Rabbi David Stav, chairman of Tzohar, a rabbinical organisation in Israel.If “it’s injected into the body, not (eaten) through the mouth,” then there is “no prohibition and no problem, especially when we are concerned about sicknesses,” he said.
Frances Gozland
02:45:46
But there are kosher vitamins
Anne Mayer
02:45:52
preventive and invasive are two different things
Maribel Bennett
02:46:11
this is what I found online, how do we argue that?
Ruth Seliger
02:46:25
mykidsmychoice.com has link to submit RE?
Lori
02:46:25
Not in the DOE
Rebecca Geltzer
02:46:47
Waiting to hear
Shoshana A
02:47:08
my employer said I will be put on leave of absence for up to 3 months starting on 10.7 and will not be eligible for unemployment when the leave expires. also, my health insurance will end on 10.31.
Shoshana A
02:47:30
please sdvise
Shoshana A
02:47:35
advise
Anne Mayer
02:47:37
viruses naturally enter through the nose and mouth. Can this argument be used?
Sharon
02:47:53
Does all this apply to all City employees?
Gershon B
02:48:06
Thanks for your help!!! You guys have added great support to us 🙂
Rebecca Geltzer
02:48:18
Thank you all!
Vivian Gandolfo
02:48:22
A religious exemption to testing has to be 6-8 pages?
Allyson Marks
02:48:25
thank you so much
Sarah Buzaglo
02:48:29
do we show up on the 27th
Dvora Weinraub
02:48:32
Thank You for all the helpful information!!!!
Rebecca Geltzer
02:48:37
Good question
Chaim Leiter
02:48:46
does that apply for college too?
Lori
02:49:26
Please explain why not testing
Chaim Leiter
02:49:34
where do we send the RE?
Maribel Bennett
02:49:44
how do we challenge this: “According to the Jewish law, the prohibition on eating pork or using pork is only forbidden when it’s a natural way of eating it,” said Rabbi David Stav, chairman of Tzohar, a rabbinical organisation in Israel.If “it’s injected into the body, not (eaten) through the mouth,” then there is “no prohibition and no problem, especially when we are concerned about sicknesses,” he said.
Brucha Weisberger
02:50:28
What would one say in a letter for testing?
Cheryl Torand
02:50:37
THANK YOU
Chaim Leiter
02:50:39
where do I send the RE for college?
Gordon Kobayashi
02:50:48
I have both a medical and religious exemption letter (from the Leader of my Church) and was planning to submit both simultaneously. Waiting to join my school union, which will take a couple weeks, so I can get a union rep if I have to have a meeting with my District School Superintendent
paula hashmall
02:50:52
I wonder if there's a jewish scripture 101 for those of us not trained
Gershon B
02:50:58
Isn’t that a departure though from a religious basis??
Mindy Leff
02:51:19
How to get recording
Ellen Osuna
02:51:23
Its a vaccine according to the new revised Orwellian Newspeak definition of vaccine ..
Miriam Greenberger
02:51:27
Is this for college students as well....what happens if your child is trying to get into medical school? will not getting vaccinated effect his medical career?
Roksana
02:51:31
Will we get a recording of this zoom?
Sarah Buzaglo
02:51:32
SOLAS
Sarah Wiesel
02:51:35
What appeals
Gershon B
02:52:05
Not by EMAIL???
Sarah Wiesel
02:52:26
Bec no place to place us causing undue burden on doe for placement
Ruth Seliger
02:52:32
solace?? link pls.
Robert .
02:52:50
what if the company posts a "no recording" sign at the front desk?
Chana Rennert
02:53:43
https://dhrnycaps.nycenet.edu/SOLAS/
Chana Rennert
02:53:49
try that link for SOLAS
Chana Rennert
02:54:07
You have to sign in with you DOE sign in info
Michelle Racer
02:54:24
What about deblasios key to nyc with no option for medical or religious exemptions.
Galit Stam
02:54:45
Remember to ask that the information remain confidential!
Shoshana A
02:55:08
yes, how do we fight the NYC key and go to the gym?
Chana Rennert
02:55:13
WHen on SOLAS, does anyone know if you click on request leave or request accomadation?
Galit Stam
02:55:32
what is the clause for the 1964 civil rights act?
Michelle Racer
02:55:47
Or under key to nyc got fired in fitness industry
Mila M
02:55:55
THANK YOU!
Anne Mayer
02:55:56
God bless you all. Thank you
Mindy Leff
02:55:57
thanks
Gordon Kobayashi
02:55:59
Thank you.
Sarah Buzaglo
02:56:03
thank you
NW
02:56:06
Thank you so much!
Ruthie Massey
02:56:07
Thank you !
Shoshana A
02:56:08
thank you!!!
Robert .
02:56:10
thank you all
Ruth Seliger
02:56:11
tyvm!!!!!
Leah Zilberman
02:56:17
Thank you
Marianna Babayeva
02:56:17
thank you and good night!
Ellen Osuna
02:56:18
thank you .. blessings to all
paula hashmall
02:56:18
Thank you all so very much!
Amy Baez
02:56:20
Thank you all.
Malkita Rosenfeld
02:56:24
ty, don't forget the links
Sharon
02:56:25
Thank you. Very helpful.
Chana Safdieh
02:56:28
thank you for all your help, time and advice
Russell Areman
02:56:29
thank you all - very informative and helpful
Diana Alago
02:56:31
Thank you@
Sora Yisroel
02:56:31
Thank you
Stacey Rotondo
02:56:33
Thank you!