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Exploring an Important Intersection within The Systems of Care: Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities and Mental Health Disabilities CoP - Shared screen with speaker view
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
20:27
Welcome!
Mariola Rosser
20:45
Please introduce yourself in the chat
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
20:49
Feel free to share any questions or comments here in the chat
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
21:03
And yes, also feel free to introduce yourself!
Mariola Rosser
21:37
Mariola Rosser, Center for Health and Health Care in Schools/GWU
T Nurse
25:16
T from FL, #8
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
25:19
I'm going to go with 8
David Jones
25:26
#9 outdoors
mccurdyimac
25:32
MARK AND JANE MCCURDY. #8
Joanne Cashman
25:36
J #8
Carol Vyhonsky
25:42
Carol from FL . I choose #5.
Mariola Rosser
25:42
2
PapeA
25:52
1
Chioma Oruh
25:53
7
T Nurse
26:22
#9 for inspire
Fari Tumpe, DC Abolitionist
26:26
Fari 2
myrna dukes
26:43
Dukesmyrna@gmail.com 7
Carol Vyhonsky
27:51
I chose #5 because sometimes I just need someone to talk to one on one to get encouragement.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
34:31
Dialogue requires a lot more active listening than debate. That's the hard part.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
37:19
Sometimes you see debate and discussion dressed up as dialogue. Genuine dialogue is rare.
mccurdyimac
37:51
In Fla we observe more debate, (mostly political)
Joanne Cashman
37:59
I would like to say dialogue but most conversations are discussions...people wan to be heard...but not open to learn
Patricia M. Banks
38:19
Veterans Admin Cyberseminars prepare us to see issues from the viewpoint of others. Whether it be a family member or Veteran's relative or them. Their seminars and involvement with Elizabeth Dole's Foundation prepares us as Caregivers to provide a more supportive systems for those around us also.
T Nurse
38:47
Engaging systems in dialouge is a rarity, silos rule. Although I refuse to accept and drive dialouge
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
38:57
That's a really important and valuable skill Patricia
Patricia M. Banks
47:08
Thanks Jeremy-It's important for perspective and empathy as a skill resource. I'd agree we must merge inclusion at every level to be productive as society. Communication is key to compassion.
Patricia M. Banks
49:17
Absolutely-it's a la carte approach, not one case is the same for all in every situation!
mccurdyimac
52:20
Is the social and medical model the 40,000 ft viewpoint of the problem? It’s hard to grasp how this can help
mccurdyimac
52:46
Thanks Tom that helps!
Jacqueline Marquez Duprey
53:13
@Tom Nurse great point.
Patricia M. Banks
53:16
It could be reverse based on Dept of Education and Practitioners-it's a case by case scenario
Mariola Rosser
53:38
I love that Tom
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
53:46
Not sure how it helps, but I think it explains why people have issues with systems that serve them. Most existing systems rely on medical definitions.
Jane - NAMI Hall
53:58
Considering the overlaps in symptoms and ever evolving DSM, the Medical model is too restrictive. See the person first!
Patricia M. Banks
54:27
Exactly Joanne-two different plans totally
Patricia M. Banks
55:49
Lee County Health System worked hand in hand with school system. They correlate together for a productive positive educational outcome in FLA.
John Ferrone
56:59
Medical model professionals are trained to "be" the answer, or provide the answer. Social model professionals are trained to find the answer and empower the person, if possible. These two training paradigms are deeply embedded in our culture.
Mariola Rosser
57:21
Well said John
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
57:37
The question of how economics impact this issue is very interesting. The medical model relies on strict definitions, and those definitions allow systems to draw lines around what they will pay for and what they will not.
Jane - NAMI Hall
57:57
👍🏼John F.
Mariola Rosser
58:03
Leading by Convening Tools were developed by stakeholders
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
58:05
A truly socially or functionally designed system would be harder to control in terms of scope and cost
Mariola Rosser
59:43
https://chhcs.padlet.org/chhcs1/4Questions
Patricia M. Banks
59:47
It should be more uniformly constructed from each State and County to County. My daughter changed from 3 counties in FL to NYS, very different indeed when they fast track education into graduation.
T Nurse
59:48
Consumer Directed Care + HCBS wavier is a good start to merging these two models
T Nurse
01:01:53
Define Care vs obligated
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:02:59
Definitely Tom. HCBS is supposed to get at this very issue of medical vs. social. Of course the challenge is making systems like the HCBS waiver universally available and fully funded.
Chioma Oruh
01:08:01
Businesses (workforce development)
Jane - NAMI Hall
01:08:19
Childcare Providers
Carol Vyhonsky
01:08:19
Parents of kids with disabilities!
Fari Tumpe, DC Abolitionist
01:08:47
SAMSHA
Jane - NAMI Hall
01:09:04
Pediatricians
Fari Tumpe, DC Abolitionist
01:09:37
The Mindfulness community
Chioma Oruh
01:10:02
++ (concurring with Jeremy - I also see a huge gap of mental health services for the I/DD communities)
Fari Tumpe, DC Abolitionist
01:10:04
Holistic Healers
Mariola Rosser
01:11:31
gislators
Fari Tumpe, DC Abolitionist
01:12:03
That was my next response, government officials
Chioma Oruh
01:12:12
Yes, legislation matters..
Carol Vyhonsky
01:17:07
Tools: IEPs, 504 Plans
Patricia M. Banks
01:17:10
Lee County FL school system sends parents as partners to FLGCU for education from various sources. Family Court and Courts here inform Judicial Divisions to allow better perspectives.
Mariola Rosser
01:18:37
https://chhcs.padlet.org/chhcs1/4Questions
Jane - NAMI Hall
01:20:02
How about WRAPs and PADs?
Chioma Oruh
01:20:53
Academia is also promoting integrated care, so that’s also a work that’s underway..
Fari Tumpe, DC Abolitionist
01:20:54
Mental health professionals providing services in schools
Chioma Oruh
01:23:10
Yes! Also licensure boards should be promoting professional development to making sure clinical professional standards bend towards promoting social model
Patricia M. Banks
01:24:00
We are seriously so fortunate having Family Café- I've referred Veteran Families as their organized resources and support system is superior in USA
Jane - NAMI Hall
01:24:03
Emory Medical School now has Internal Medicine and Psychiatry Residents. An important combination.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:24:20
Thanks Patricia!
Chioma Oruh
01:24:50
In case you missed it, here’s the link to the Padlet - save and share: https://chhcs.padlet.org/chhcs1/4Questions
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:25:16
Just to be clear, EVERYONE is welcome to use the link to enter their own thoughts and comments!
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:25:24
This is a collaborative effort
Fari Tumpe, DC Abolitionist
01:26:24
#2 orgs Disability Rights Attorneys are successfully winning lawsuits against institutions
Joanne Cashman
01:29:42
I feel a connection to ideas and people
T Nurse
01:29:42
Grateful for those that care, and appreciative of those the fight for whats right!
Chioma Oruh
01:30:15
I feel very much seen in this space of like minded allies 🙂
Patricia M. Banks
01:30:17
I agree it's a smart session! :-)
Jane - NAMI Hall
01:31:05
👍🏼Tom
Chioma Oruh
01:31:48
Medical Model
Chioma Oruh
01:31:51
Social Model
Joanne Cashman
01:32:14
See how we can do something in our own context!
T Nurse
01:33:19
Elections matter!!!!!
Robyne's S21+
01:34:08
thank you!
Sharon Rousey
01:34:16
Learned Apollo much. Thank all!
T Nurse
01:34:34
Really enjoy the fellowship and true caring, it gives me renewed HOPE
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:34:42
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Sharon Rousey
01:34:43
so much!
Jane - NAMI Hall
01:37:28
Thank you to all!