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The Future of High Streets and Town Centres - Shared screen with speaker view
Carol Thornton
24:16
Sorry - nothing's happening when I try to change my name.
Pam Jones
24:46
Can't see my screen ..so can't update my name etc
Pam Jones
25:05
NO..on ccomputer
NALC Online Events
26:20
Click on the 3 dots next to your name and you will see 'rename'.
Pam Jones
26:26
Cllr Pam Jones, Alton Ton Mayor
Carol Thornton
26:31
Carol Thornton, Barton upon Humber Town Council
Lisa O'Sullivan
26:37
I can't see my name anywhere on the screen
Sarah Eden
27:12
I am not sure whether mic or video is on or off?
Carol Thornton - Barton upon Humber Town Council
27:14
I can get a little box in the top left corner, which has me down as a participant number, but I can't change that.
Pam Jones
27:14
Just have red info sceen plus small thumbnail of speaker
Edward Thompson
27:51
I'm Ed Thompson from Martlesham Parish council and East Suffolk Council
Pam Jones
27:58
ok
Sarah Eden
28:02
Thanks
Cllr Bob Brown
28:12
That's what I have as well. Red info screen plus thumbnail of speaker.
Linda Larter
28:23
is there any tea and biscuits?
Stewart Palmen
28:34
Hello I am Cllr Stewart Palmen from Trowbridge Town Council
Chris Bagshaw
28:43
Can my dog join us?
Tracy Rowe - Teignmouth Town Council
28:49
I have tea and blueberry muffins
Stewart Palmen
28:59
My cat is on my lap
Cllr Bob Brown
29:04
Bob Brown from Ulverston Town Council.
Andrew Maliphant
29:05
Andrew Maliphant, retired parish clerk and active regeneration practitioner - hi everyone
Chris Bagshaw
29:12
Fortunately you are spared the sight of the mad cocker...
Justin Griggs, NALC
29:12
Hi everyone, thanks for joining us today :-)
Pam Jones
29:13
Can you see us
Henrietta Ross
29:15
Hello, Cllr Henrietta Ross from Upton upon Severn Town Council
Justin Griggs, NALC
29:41
No Pam, only the speakers will be on your screen plus the slides
Pam Jones
29:53
ok
Andrew Maliphant
30:10
Hi to Bob - fond memories of Ulverston 1990-92
Helen Headech Uttoxeter Town Council
30:11
Hello all, as I cant see the list of people , I'm Cllr. Helen Headech of Uttoxeter Staffordshire.
Justin Griggs, NALC
30:33
We're using the Zoom webinar not meetings which is why you won't see the faces of all attendees - with their dogs and tea/biscuits ;-)
Stephen Cosser
30:55
Hi, Steve Cosser , Chairman SurreyALC
Cllr Neil Jacques
31:01
Hi I am Cllr Neil Jacques from Barton upon Humber Town Council
Pam Jones
31:17
🎄Did someone mention Christmas??
Lori Ramsay- Community Projects Manager
31:31
Hello,Lori Ramsay, Community Projects Manager - Yate Town Council
christina reavey
31:41
Hello I'm Tina Reavey from Higham Ferrers I cant change my name
Andrew Maliphant
31:54
I don't do Christmas until after Guy Fawkes!
Pam Jones
31:55
We are already planning the return of our Christmas Marmots...
alison
33:35
Hi everyone from Alison at Loftus Town Council (northernmost bit of North Yorkshire) with a Victorian and Georgian Town Centre (and a significant level on the Indices of multiple deprivation………)
John Dinnie
34:23
Hi, I am from Shipston on Stour
Niamh
35:24
Hi, I am from Rugeley in Staffordshire.
Belina Boyer
36:08
Are we all introducing ourselves? Sorry, I was a bit late. Hi I am Belina, currently Clipstone PC in Nottinghamshire but soon moving to Gainsborough in Lincolnshire - just in time for Christmas.
Michelle
36:59
I'm from Ulverston Town Council
Mark Davies
37:20
mark.davies@ccla.co.uk - if you're interested in hearing about our specialist investment funds for Town & Parish Councils ….
Pam Jones
38:04
Will be able to share images?
Anne Wilson
39:08
Hello. I'm here from Welshpool Town Council and also Sutton Maddock Parish Council
Graham Poulter Gillingham TC
40:26
Better late than never. Graham Poulter Gillingham (Dorset) TC
Tracey Broughton
41:13
Hello from Barton Upon Humber Town Council
Pam Jones
46:31
Alton has its own shop unit which is now a pop up emporium for crafts etc
Pam Jones
47:46
You need creative officers and councillors
Stewart Palmen
49:22
Also a more "experiential" high street.. not so much retail focused anymore
Pam Jones
49:58
Openings for services not available on line etc
Louise from Ferndown TC
50:40
Matt can you out your email address in the chat box please?
Carol Thornton - Barton upon Humber Town Council
51:36
Does anyone have retail units dedicated to parcel collection? Deliveries arriving when you're out are a real nuisance now, both to the householder and the neighbours.
Anne Wilson
52:59
I know who Ryan is - he is on You Tube. I have grand children!!
Pam Jones
56:06
I wonder how fuel shortages in the future will affect deliveries of on line orders
Steven Webb (Mayor of Truro)
57:05
It might feel like a nightmare, but it’s an opportunity. Granted a tough one.
Andrew Maliphant
57:20
Agreed
Michelle
57:50
Toys r us and others went under because they sold what they thought people wanted, not what they actually wanted. Influencers like Ryan have always been around, celebs have sold to us for decades, it's just become a very clever sales technique and tool that's utilised well.
Louise from Ferndown TC
58:49
Assumption that Town Council's accept and want to tackle climate change. Mine don't.
Stewart Palmen
59:16
Our has and made a lot of progress on the issue at a local level
Chris Bagshaw
01:00:10
Isn't Stockton's plan just the latest in a series of billions of public money invested into a failing town? (No offence intended - I like Stockton, but tis not without long term structural challenges which have been in place for 40 years)
Belina Boyer
01:01:11
Hmm, but should our High Street just be there to serve consumerism? In non- affluent areas, this will not work or lead to even more misery by getting people into dept. The high Street needs to be more.
Lindsay Southcombe
01:01:21
sadly, most councils are still stuck in the neoliberal economic system, where buying stuff is all important and respond accordingly.
Cllr Neil Jacques - Barton upon Humber Town Council
01:01:48
well put
Kevin Cranston Stroud Town Council Councillor and Mayor
01:01:52
So have we. Electric Van for green spaces team, converting streamers leaf blowers etc to battery power. Carbon Reduction Fund, and a retirement for all briefing papers to have a CO2 impact section similar to Legal implications etc
alison
01:03:02
ooh hello Cllr Clarke - shout out for Teesside and Cleveland!
Anne Wilson
01:03:43
We have recently adopted two plans - An Environmental Policy and a Bio-diversity and Eco- Resilience Policy
Steven Webb (Mayor of Truro)
01:04:46
Local councils need help/guidence to know how they can tackle climate change locally. It’s frightening how isolated we feel in tackling it.
Andrew Maliphant
01:05:13
Agreed - we need to share good practice urgently
Carol Thornton - Barton upon Humber Town Council
01:05:29
😁
Chris Bagshaw
01:05:59
Do check out the work of Kendal's Climate Jury
Steven Webb (Mayor of Truro)
01:06:29
TY Chris
Justin Griggs, NALC
01:06:41
We've loads of info, resources and case studies on the dedicated webpage on the NALC website here https://www.nalc.gov.uk/our-work/climate-change
Michelle
01:08:16
none of this is new, this has been happening for 30 years. The addition of online shopping is the same as any time saving tool.
Pam Jones
01:09:08
I am 'an older woman'....I am involved with many organisations and there are so many older women running them... but they often need to use a car as not so mobile
Michelle
01:09:23
Oh thank god, I've been banging on for years that pedestrianizing will destroy whats left of our high streets!
Cllr Henrietta Ross - Upton upon Severn Town Council
01:09:40
Ultimately it comes down to “Life work Balance” and I put life first deliberately
Pam Jones
01:09:53
...and some of us can't ride a bike....
Carol Thornton - Barton upon Humber Town Council
01:09:55
Understanding of (older) women's needs: why does nobody ever take toilets into account? Many, possibly most older women need regular access to a loo when out!
Pam Jones
01:10:08
YES yes..... loos
Chris Bagshaw
01:10:11
cars vs pedestrian though is a serious dichotomy of interest
Tony Davey
01:10:41
As a Councillor and head of a Chamber of Trade, I agree that we need a safe and fair balance of town use for Cars, Cyclists and Pedestrians. The "war on cars" is too blinkered, but change is needed.
Carol Thornton - Barton upon Humber Town Council
01:10:54
Pedestrianising with associated parking alongside has to be best. Park, then walk a short distance to the shops where you can stroll safely.
alison
01:11:24
everyone who is stopping more than a short time needs loos. Family friendly loos means you can stay and browse longer.
Pam Jones
01:11:25
When I was first a Cllr I was a full time teacher and a mother of 2 teenagers... you have to be well organised and passionate about your town
Cllr Liz Withington
01:12:00
In Sheringham North Norfolk we have a really thriving independent high street. We believe that is down to the fact we have town centre parking and on street parking in the high street. We are attempting to finad a way to retain this but coming under pressure to remove cars from the town centre . would be interested to discuss this further Suzannah Clarke
Stewart Palmen
01:12:10
We are benefitting in a Trowbridge with a Chamber of Commerce which is now made up with more Women than Men. Also the number of Female Town Councillors has increased greatly and this is a real benefit to fresh thinking.
Steven Webb (Mayor of Truro)
01:12:56
Needed to hear this, Thank you.
Belina Boyer
01:12:58
I am not quite in the 65+ group - yet. I would not chose to shop where there is a constant stream of cars. What is needed is a convenient way to navigate town centres without cars. And I do not mean e-scooters.
Carol Thornton - Barton upon Humber Town Council
01:13:19
😊
Michelle
01:13:33
The UK seems to be the only Country that doesn't understand that we can have spaces that allow cars and people together. The ideological thought that it should be green space and seating with no access to cars just forces the shoppers to out of town retail where they can shop the way they want to. Telling them they should shop a different way doesn't change what works
alison
01:14:03
been to Sheringham most years over the last 10 years,it definitely comes across (to the visitor) as more vibrant than it was.
Claire Mann, MTC
01:17:10
Could we please be sent the Presentations by each speaker?
Katherine Owen Blachere Illumination
01:18:04
n case it helps with the women feeling safe at night aspect - we are currently doing a pilot scheme to light up darker areas within a town to see if that helps and may be a consideration for the future , so don't just think that lighting is only for Christmas
Katherine Owen Blachere Illumination
01:18:15
slides will be sent out
Pam Jones
01:19:32
Alton has a weekly market and also monthly craft and farmers' markets.. During lockdown our council organised outdoor markets on a Saturday ones.. these were held on every weekend last December...... covid safer.... they have proved really popular so will continue.. promote voluntary groups and local crafters
Carol Thornton - Barton upon Humber Town Council
01:20:52
We're looking at pedestrianisation and re-establishing a market, but our town centre is very cramped and not well endowed with parking. We could use some help (preferably free or funded!) to help work this out.
Pam Jones
01:21:17
Will a link for the recording of this meeting be sent out?
Chris Bagshaw
01:21:32
getting the highway authority to recognise the need for a TRO seems problematic
Kevin Cranston Stroud Town Council Councillor and Mayor
01:21:47
Stroud farmer’s Market has been going weekly for over 20 years. It has made a significant boost to footfall in the town centre and keeps the town centre alive certainly on a Saturday. The other market keeps people coming in on Fridays and Saturdays.
Sue Tilley
01:22:05
And getting the community accept change!
Michelle
01:22:21
I'm a Town Councillor, a business woman running my own retail store for the past 17 years on the High St and Chair of the local BID board. Telling people what they need instead of listening to what they want is a great way of failing
Andrew Maliphant
01:22:39
Community engagement and involvement is vital in all this
Steven Webb (Mayor of Truro)
01:23:16
We have a market every Wed, Sat and it bring ALOT of footfall. Plus famous food market this weekend. Our market really does help current high street.
Pam Jones
01:24:13
Well said.... all funding went to District Cllrs when Local Parish council got nothing
Stewart Palmen
01:24:53
I run a new Independent Traders Market with a local community group and it has really helped new businesses and bring people into town. It is under the Town Council but not branded as a council event. "Trowbridge Weavers Market" google it :-)
Steven Webb (Mayor of Truro)
01:27:56
TY good point
Kevin Cranston Stroud Town Council Councillor and Mayor
01:29:12
Stroud Farmers Market is run as a private business but the other market is run by the District Council.
Lindsay Southcombe
01:29:29
so agree. The car cannot be king anymore.
Steven Webb (Mayor of Truro)
01:30:14
Yes, systems to move people not cars.
John Lamb
01:30:51
To what extent can or should town centres convert premises to residential?
Chris Bagshaw
01:31:19
residential vs night time economy = conflict
Stewart Palmen
01:31:26
Get rid of the District Councils! Unitary is the way to go!
Pam Jones
01:32:09
Many local newspapers are not proactive.....so Facebook is a useful tool to communicate
Paul Wiltshire Brackley Town Council
01:33:16
Be careful of what you wish for. A new unitary can be hi-jacked by the largest former DC and most rersources go there.
Justin Griggs, NALC
01:33:49
Here's the markets toolkit David just mentioned https://www.highstreetstaskforce.org.uk/resources/details/?id=a7c61996-8cb8-44f7-a131-075bd12fd904
John Lamb
01:34:19
Lewes is developing a scheme to help more people to get online so they can join in Zoom, FB, shopping etc.
Justin Griggs, NALC
01:36:40
Good question for David here from over in the Q&A - If a council possesses General Power of Competence, does it need to rely on Food Act 1984 to be able to operate a market?
Chris Bagshaw
01:37:03
Justin - you should know the answer to that!
Andrew Maliphant
01:37:30
Maybe a town partnership with everyone involved, not just chamber of trade. Businesses are part of the community
Cllr Henrietta Ross - Upton upon Severn Town Council
01:39:16
Some Councils have a youth Council too.
Kevin Cranston Stroud Town Council Councillor and Mayor
01:39:47
Stroud TC appointed a Community Development Officer three years ago. She has made a huge difference to the two more deprived areas of the town. Each now has a thriving community group, both were community lead and supported by the Town Council. We also funded 4 Freezers of Love to distribute pre cooked food via the local Food bank. All help build communities.
Linda Larter
01:40:27
access to LEPs for town and parish councils is practically impossible
Pam Jones
01:42:02
We have a problem with absentee landlords…. who have no real interest in the shops being let.. just apart of portfolios for tax relief etc
Niamh
01:42:23
Us too Pam...
Justin Griggs, NALC
01:42:38
On Linda's point about engaging with LEPs I'd be keen to hear more about what councils have tried and hasn't worked - policycomms@nalc.gov.uk
Anne Wilson
01:43:05
We have just completed a survey of our town centre businesses and shops with Councillors visiting them in person and the reaction and answers have been in the main positive - the main issue being the cost of parking. This is the beginning of the community working together - they have some great ideas and we are looking to implement some. The conversation around setting up a BID was brought up by the traders themselves however the Town Council had already begun a conversation around this. The Planning Department is our stumbling block with regard to the re-use of shops and upgrading of pubs etc.
Stewart Palmen
01:44:52
You also need to talk to those who have not set up business in your town to see what they need or you will just preserve what is already there and things are changing massively. Maybe some of those older businesses should die?
Anne Wilson
01:45:46
Agree Stewart - we are a traditional old market town
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Tracy Rowe - Teignmouth Town Council
01:47:38
Thank you to all the speakers
Matt Baker
01:47:52
Thanks everyone
Cllr Liz Withington
01:48:00
can we contct details please
Steven Webb (Mayor of Truro)
01:48:09
Thank you
Pam Jones
01:48:16
Second that Tracy was in Teignmouth last week.. my home town.
Anne Wilson
01:48:22
Thanks you
Cllr Henrietta Ross - Upton upon Severn Town Council
01:48:22
Thank you. Our retail units are filled quickly we need more footfall
Andrew Maliphant
01:48:25
oThanks to everyone - let's keep in touch
Belina Boyer
01:48:34
Thank you.