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Social Security FORUM/FORO de Seguro Social - Shared screen with speaker view
Elizabeth Arroyo
26:52
Love this video. lol
Anthony Avila
27:08
Love it! Gotta see it over and over.
Martha Steele Spellman
27:11
This is a great video!!!!
Shelton Yip
27:11
I’m with you!!!!!!
Patricia Schramm
27:15
Ditto
Dean Medek
27:47
Funny.
Dean Medek
27:52
WHAT
Mary Jo Poole
27:54
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Ernest Harris
28:10
Great !!!!!
Anthony Avila
28:11
Is there a way to send it to my friends?
Kathi Fotinos
28:38
Love it
Judy Jackson
28:43
Love the video
Cecilia Flores
28:52
funny but true
Peter Shapiro
28:54
Wow! Where can I get hat video???
Kathryn Donahue
29:02
Awesome welcome video!!!
Cheryl McKinley
29:09
Great video!!! Yes, we all want a copy of this!
Long beach Gray Panthers
29:11
love, love it!
California Alliance for Retired Americans
29:23
WELCOME EVERYONE!
Dean Medek
29:30
Scrap the Cap!
J L Hernandez
29:40
that was fun
Bruce McLean
29:49
Greetings from the North State Medicare for All,
Susan A. Hammer
30:11
What a great video!!!
Elizabeth Pataki
30:14
Hello Kathy
Norma Wilcox
31:58
Norma Wilcox
Chuck Walker Sr
32:08
Scrap the cap video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZQlbtlErLo
Jodi Reid
32:46
Bowles Simpson was during Clinton administration
Larry Marotta
34:15
Video posted on CARA Facebook group and page.
Dean Medek
35:57
We need to make teaching a more attractive profession, including to people have had different jobs that paid into Social Security.
Norma Wilcox
36:28
What is the number of the bill?
Dwane Camp Jr
36:56
SJR 11 is our sponsored resolution on Social Security
Jodi Reid
37:07
The state bill is SJR 11. the National bill is HR 5723
Michael Nye
38:25
Nancy Skinner is a State Senator, former member of the Assembly
Helen Baum
41:06
Time to tax the wealthy for human services for most of us.
Patricia Schramm
41:10
Will this be available on line or those Cara members that are unable to atten
Karla Salazar
42:14
Yes it will, Patricia.
Bill Philipps, AFT
42:27
WEP/GPO robs 2 million teachers and public employees!!
Mary Jo Poole
43:40
Thank you!
Cheryl McKinley
43:43
Thanks, Bill. Yes it does - but ONLY in 13 states! Which makes it even MORE unfair!
Helen Baum
44:19
Let’s get a quick education on how the wealthy and high earners do tax avoidance that would provide the funds needed for us working and retired workers.
Rachel LaForest
47:06
to whom should we write, and who should I call?
Ellen Sweeney
47:06
Please tell us where to send our letters. My congressman never gives his opinion when a bill is still in committee.
Harry Bernstein
47:34
Please clarify the wording of “about” in this “Solution” from SR 11 Fund these measures and make a significant contribution toward long term solvency by requiring social security payments on earnings about $400,000. Does it mean up to $400,000 or above that amount?
Kristopher Organ
49:24
Thank you, Senator Skinner.
Martha Steele Spellman
49:52
Thank you, Senator Skinner, from Brentwood - Contra Costa County.
Theodore Kagan
51:56
please repeat the bill # that the president mentioned ted
C. T. Weber
52:24
I will be posting a letter of support on the legislature's portal on behalf of Peace and Freedom Party soon. Thank you.
Pamela Rood
53:06
Are other states yet passing the same SJR?
Pamela Rood
53:30
Brief history of why the cap?
karen lang
53:39
I'd like to understand better the GPO
Rachel LaForest
53:50
If I strt taing Soc/ sec and then fterwards WEP is revered, would I get my FULL earned sOC Sec? My hope of the WEP elimination is why I have held off on starting Soc. sec.
Kathryn Donahue
53:53
Question: What is the best way to encourage Nancy Pelosi to hold a vote on HR5723?
Nadine Peyrucain
53:54
My kids in their 50’s don’t have pensions either—SS will be their only future income—with the cost of everything how can they save enough. Just a statement—fighting for my adult children.
karen lang
54:09
please restate our next actions at the end
Cheryl McKinley
54:46
I support @Harry Bernstein's question - please explain the wording on the attachment. Is it 'about' or 'above' $400,000? Also - IS Social Security actually running out of money? I was told the basic algorithms that SS is based on are incorrect, as they were established in the 1930s.
Ellen Sweeney
54:50
I’m writing to my State Assemblymember, right?
Nadine Peyrucain
55:16
Please mute if not speaking
Joseph Donahue, RN
55:28
the Social Security fund has been robbed to fund other things. Those funds should be returned to Social Security.
Joseph Donahue, RN
56:09
Thank you, Senator Nancy Skinner.
warren okopny
56:27
As educators, How can we educate our legislators as we communicate to them? What are their reasons for hesitating on voting or co-signing HR 82? and S 1302?
California Alliance for Retired Americans
56:28
THANK YOU SENATOR SKINNER!
Liz Larew
57:08
So, we should be contacting our CA Assembly members to support SJR 11, correct? Should we also be contacting Speaker Pelosi to call for a vote on HR5723 (per the handout that was included in the packet of documents for this Forum)?
Jodi Reid
57:48
The last part of today's agenda will go over what we need to do for SJR 11 and for HR 5723 Hang tight
Liz Larew
58:09
Perfect. Thanks.
karen lang
59:59
ditto rachel leafs question
Richard Gallo
01:00:47
Republicans is trying to sunset Social Security and Medicare which is morally WRONG We paid into system
Art Persyko
01:01:29
Question: It’s a little unusual to have to ask our legislature to support a bill in Congress. When I first heard about the California resolution, it was a little confusing to me. Now, I understand, but if we want to ask our friends and neighbors to support the state resolution, what can we say to them about the need for a state resolution to get federal legislation?
Richard Gallo
01:02:06
Expand Social Security is the answer for the future
Nadine Peyrucain
01:03:22
Let that is the fuel to work to elect others that understand community needs and moral imperative that everyone is deserving of basic needs.
*Tom Rankin
01:03:27
Bowles was Clinton’s chief of staff. The Bowles-Simpson Commission was a Presidential Commission formed by Obama in 2010.
Dean Medek
01:03:48
Question: if WEP is eliminated, what would implementation look like?
Nadine Peyrucain
01:04:39
I remember well Tom Rankin—he isn’t on my list of favorite presidents.
Art Persyko
01:05:10
For how many more years will the S 2100 make the social security fund healthy and able to pay its benefits when compared to doing nothing?
Anthony Avila
01:05:12
How do you destroy Social Security? You privatize it. Isn't that what Joe Namath is doing?
Richard Gallo
01:06:10
What is the current status of the Social Security Restoration Act of 2021?
Rachel LaForest
01:07:12
it seems WEP proportionaately harms females-- for example teachers and wives often work part of their careers in Soc system, and part in PERS.
Jon Bauman
01:07:14
The election will NOT go badly for supporters of Social Security because ALL OF US at this meeting in CA are going to work to elect Congress members who will PROTECT & EXPAND Social Security!!!!!
Peter Albert - SEIU1021
01:07:32
Can we get a list of Calif Assembly co-sponsors for SJR 11?
Joan Marks
01:08:01
Are they going to change the law for those that receive Social Security benefits and they are denied their spouses' benefits based upon their income even though the spouses made more money?????
Ellen Yoshitsugu
01:09:35
Will there be a recoding of this forum? I'm really sorry I missed it, have to go again
Jodi Reid
01:10:04
this forum is being recorded and will be on the CARA website by Monday. www.californiaalliance.org
Ellen Yoshitsugu
01:10:16
Thank you!!
Harry Bernstein
01:10:52
Please comment on the following— H.R. 5723 only calls for suspending GPO and WEP for five years rather than abolishing them, as H.R. 82 would do.
Lela l
01:12:00
when you say expand social security
Lela l
01:12:08
skating does that mean
Lela l
01:12:18
meant what
Carol Garvey
01:14:28
I’m still confused about that weird “donut hole.”
Harry Bernstein
01:16:02
The 200 or so co-sponsors of H.R. 5723 are all Democrats, although the perennial H.R. 82, a much less ambitious bill that would abolish GPO and WEP, has been a bipartisan measure (with 269 co-sponsors, although H.R. 5723 was not introduced until October 26, ’21.
Bonnie Cediel
01:16:28
People who are affected by the WEP/GPO have paid into into FICA at the same rate as other workers. Our money is already in the system. No additional funding should be needed to repeal the WEP and GPO.
Carol Garvey
01:17:08
Thank you Senator Skinner!
Joseph Donahue, RN
01:17:10
Thank you, Nancy Altman, for great information.
Lela l
01:17:12
explain wep and gpo
Carol Garvey
01:17:29
Also Nancy Altman!
California Alliance for Retired Americans
01:18:03
THANK YOU NANCY ALTMAN!
Jackie Morganfield Chaplain AFRAM 2015
01:18:23
Please explain WEP and GPO
Harry Bernstein
01:19:54
There are millions of dollars that seniors have earned but not are receiving due to GPO and WEP. How much money per year does that amount to and what is it being used for currently? That is, what are these seniors subsidizing, those who are not receiving million$ worth of benefits that they are not receiving?
Jackie Morganfield Chaplain AFRAM 2015
01:20:12
Can you please make a transcript available
Dean Medek
01:21:56
WEP is the Windfall Exclusion Provision. It says that anyone in STRS (the California State Teachers Retirement System) and other such organizations, have a limit to the amount of SS retirement benefits based on their retirement income from STRS. For teachers, this effectively decreases their SS retirement to a paltry amount.
California Alliance for Retired Americans
01:23:22
Yes, we will post the video recording and transcript to our website at www.californiaalliance.org
Dianne
01:24:09
For Michael Dunn: can you please justify the sunset clause in HR 5723 on the repeal of the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP)? How will that work? Why is it there? What is Congressman Larson's objection to HR 82 which offers full repeal without the sunset clause?
Dean Medek
01:24:17
The WEP law is convoluted and was amended because originally teachers had their SS retirement income reduced to zero. So there was an amendment that makes sure anyone paying in (even those subject to the WEP) got a minimum SS Retirement benefit.
Jackie Morganfield Chaplain AFRAM 2015
01:25:19
Thank you
Patricia Schramm
01:25:40
How solvent is S.S ? Can we stop the S.s trust fund surplus from going into the US treasury to fund government programs.? I’ve been told by a reliable source that the government pays back loans at less than 2% per year
Dean Medek
01:27:47
If you talk to a retired teacher that has paid into SS, they will tell you how unfair it is. The WEP was initially passed because the "public" (?!?) objected to teachers benefitting from two retirements.
Cheryl McKinley
01:29:35
@Dean Medek - yet, I've been told that the WEP is only in effect in 13 states! So in most states, teachers CAN receive both. In most states, those WEP provisions do not apply. Yet, we EARNED both benefits!
Shelton Yip
01:29:41
CARA…Thank you for this very informative call today
Harry Bernstein
01:30:25
Congresspeople do not easily accept messages from people outside of their districts, especially e-mail. How can Californians reach Congressman Larson’s office (or Michael Dunn directly)?
Jodi Reid
01:31:23
If you have questions for any of our speakers, please send them to us at CARA and we will forward them for you. YOu can email jreid.cara@gmail.com
Joseph Donahue, RN
01:31:42
Thank you, Michael Dunn, and Nancy Altman.
Bonnie Cediel
01:32:01
82,000 Californians lose ALL their Social Security benefits because of the Government Pension Offset which mostly affects women. The wife gets nothing, despite the fact that California is a community property state. Benefits earned during a marriage should be shared equally.
karen lang
01:33:45
if the wep is taken down it would increase my income about $600 month upon full retirement, making me able to participate in life and activities much differently
Jon Bauman
01:34:13
Midterms are coming up! Support candidates who will PROTECT & EXPAND SOCIAL SECURITY!!! The road to holding the US House goes through CA again, just like in 2018!!! Good incumbents must be protected, and several new seats can be claimed!!!
Nadine Peyrucain
01:34:14
Fighting for you sister Karen!
Kristopher Organ
01:34:18
CARA’s push for SJR 11 and HR 5723 really contrasts AARP’s ongoing support for WEP. Let’s push this effort through both statewide and then nationally.
Margaret Siegel
01:34:31
Ditto for me. My SS payment is cut in half currently.
Robert Coplin
01:35:00
I hope Jim Cooper supports the resolution as I found him to be one of the worst Democrat Assembly members on a lot of bills
California Alliance for Retired Americans
01:35:58
Please go to our website here: https://californiaalliance.org/legislation/
Anthony Avila
01:36:27
Jim Cooper is the chairman of what committee?
California Alliance for Retired Americans
01:37:58
Please view attachment to TAKE ACTION to reach Speaker Pelosi. Thank you!
Joseph Donahue, RN
01:38:08
GREAT, CLEAR CALL TO ACTION, DWANE CAMP., JR.
Bruce McLean
01:38:52
P lease provide Pelosi's phone numbers
JANET CRANE
01:39:24
This is all complicated and it would be helpful to have the outline of a letter to CA congresspeople and to Pelosi that can be personalized otherwise it’s easy to get some detail of the ask wrong
Jodi Reid
01:39:45
The phone numbers and a sample rap are on the take action forms. Pelosi's numbers are:
*Tom Rankin
01:39:45
Cooper is chair of the Public Employment and Retirement Committee.
*Yesenia Cuevas
01:39:52
Call Nancy Pelosi 415-556-4862 San Francisco and Washington DC 202-225-4965
Jodi Reid
01:40:10
SF - 415-556-4862/ D.C. 202-225-4965
Harry Bernstein
01:40:14
Is it true that, as Speaker, Nancy Pelosi is prohibited from signing on as a co-sponsor to bills in the House?
Norma Wilcox
01:40:29
SF Office 415-556-4862/ DC office 202 225-4965
Anthony Avila
01:40:39
I need a Spanish version of today's cover letter that urges Nancy Pelosi to take action. How do I get it?
karen lang
01:40:39
I'm confused about the difference between hr5273 and the Larsen bill. are they the same thing ?
Leslie Zondervan-Droz
01:40:52
THANKS Dwayne for the specific info and directions to act.
Jodi Reid
01:40:54
HR 5723 is the Larson bill
Bonnie Cediel
01:42:01
YES, Jody! Need to work on the Senate!
Robert Coplin
01:42:29
What are the odds of the companion bill to pass in the US Senate
Cheryl McKinley
01:42:51
I see a letter to Dave Cortese, but not a letter to Jim Cooper, or his address. Suggestions?
Liz Larew
01:43:04
One of the attachments to the announcement for this meeting includes a sample script for what to say when calling Pelosi and her phone numbers.
Harry Bernstein
01:43:42
No Republicans have signed on to H.R. 5723. What are the objections that they have raised, other than being opposed to Democratic legislation?
Jodi Reid
01:45:23
Republicans in general support privatizing social security in order to "save it”. This is part of their platform. they also oppose raising taxes for anyone, but especially for the wealthy.
Jon Bauman
01:46:18
In answer to Harry's question, the Speaker does not co-sponsor or sign on to legislation, so it's not unusual that she hasn't done so. However, she has the most important function of all, which is to set the agenda and bring a bill to the floor,. That's what's at issue here- she needs to be convinced to bring the Larson bill to the floor.
Paula Hall
01:46:18
Is there a recording of a presentation like this available so we might use it with our community clubs and groups?
Robert Coplin
01:46:30
When the resolution comes up for a vote can you please send us when it comes up for a vote and the call in information
Paula Hall
01:47:03
Would you put Ms. Pelosi’s office numbers in the chat please?
Dianne
01:47:28
https://ssfairness.org/
Jodi Reid
01:47:36
415-556-4862/ 202-225-4965 (DC)
Jon Bauman
01:47:38
Dwane is right. Calling the Speaker's offices is the most effective means of persuasion.
Paula Hall
01:47:50
Thank you!
Anthony Avila
01:48:09
What is your question?
Martha Gomez
01:48:46
I don’t think the Windfall issue was addressed.
Harry Bernstein
01:48:48
Where is the WEP-GPO Repeal Task Force accessible?
warren okopny
01:48:50
Facebook:#RepealWEP#RepealGPOWEB:SSFAIRNESS.ORG
Dianne
01:50:26
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1315898065249754
warren okopny
01:50:41
HR 82 S 1302 needs co-signors google to find your legislators who have not signed on
Harry Bernstein
01:51:08
There are four or five SSA reform measures currently. Is there any effort to have some of the other ones coalesce around H.R. 5723?
Bruce McLean
01:52:30
called both of Speaker Pelosi's offices.
Liz Larew
01:52:49
When we call Pelosi, should we tell her that we're a member of CARA?
*Tom Rankin
01:54:22
HR 5723 is the comprehensive bill, the one with the broadest support and the one we need to focus on.
karen lang
01:54:57
that was clear
Chuck Adelman
01:56:24
Could someone put Pelosi’s phonenumbersin the chat?
Sandy Valadez
01:56:25
What is the subject on May 6?
Tish Ochoa
01:56:39
Well done Tom and staff and guest. I will call.
Kathi Fotinos
01:56:52
Thank you, great information
Bonnie Cediel
01:57:09
If you are looking for more information about the May 18 rally in Washington D.C. supporting both the lLarson bill and H.R. 82, there is an application and more information about the rally at the top of the homepage of ssfairness.org.
Carol Montgomery
01:57:17
thank you - very informative
Harry Bernstein
01:57:27
What is the threshold for getting a bill to the floor without going through committees? I have heard that it might be 290 co-sponsors,
Joseph Donahue, RN
01:57:35
Cheater confession: I called Speaker Pelosi at her SFc and DC offices and left the message, modifying. Also called Congressman Jimmy Panetta at his Salinas office, and thanked him for being a cosponsor of HR 5723, and urged him to urge Speaker Nancy Pelosi to schedule a floor vote and pass this essential legislation.
DRAIL- Kholoud
01:57:39
glad I joined super informative thank you!
Chuck Adelman
01:57:51
Could someone put Pelosi’s phone numbers in the chat? Thank you.
Dwane Camp Jr
01:58:37
San Francisco (415) 415-556-4862/ Washington D.C. (202) 225-4965
Lela l
01:58:54
why is pelosi failing to act ?
Dwane Camp Jr
02:00:31
It’s not totally known as to why she is reluctant to move this bill forward; however, we have surmised that due to HR 5723’s proposed tax increases on the wealthy (earners over $400k), she is less inclined to pass a bill with tax increases during an election year
Connie Chew
02:01:07
HI. No one answered, but I just left messages at both of Pelosi's offices. Thanks All!
Dwane Camp Jr
02:01:46
dcamp.cara@gmail.com
warren okopny
02:04:10
Any dual career retirees (both SS and government) please join us at #RepealWEP a Facebook group or ssfairness.org on the web.
Nadine- AFSCME Retirees, Ohlone Land
02:04:52
Linda’s information goes to the point of reopening offices and hiring enough staff to take care of processing of benefit applications.
Connie Chew
02:05:45
I looked up the website and there are currently 201 co-sponsors for HR 5723. Please go to: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5723/cosponsors
Nadine- AFSCME Retirees, Ohlone Land
02:06:52
We only need 17 more votes from the floor to pass the House.
warren okopny
02:07:49
all states
Dianne
02:08:46
WEP applies to retirees in all states & in countries overseas. SSA is a federal program & WEP affects retirees whereever they live.
warren okopny
02:08:50
any public pension and then SS gets reduced
Dianne
02:11:21
21-30 yrs. of substantial SS earnings will reduce/eliminate your WEP penalty.
warren okopny
02:11:40
not all SS agent are equally trained, some do not have knowledge
Martha Gomez
02:13:07
Both my husband and I worked for employers paying into SOC SEC. then we later worked for the state and the county. My husband is deceased, and I cannot get SOC SEC for either one of us. I also have a disabled adult son who does collect my husband’s soc sec. I was told I cannot collect it for myself.
Connie Chew
02:14:57
No person answered Ro Khanna's DC office number, but I left a message for him as a co-sponsor of HR 5723 to urge Speaker Pelosi to bring this to a Floor Vote in the House. Will also look for his local office to call there, too.
karen lang
02:16:46
if i get my wep $$ that are due me I'd have to pay taxes on it so they'd get it back
California Alliance for Retired Americans
02:17:15
THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US TODAY!
Jo Carson
02:17:21
Rachael said she worked under PERS Pupblic Employees Retirement System...if that is true,, she will get her social security, as she was paying into Soc Sec while working under PERS...that is why I get both. If she meant to stay STRS State Teachers Retirement System , then yes, she does have a problem.
Joseph Donahue, RN
02:18:44
Thank you CARA and Jodi for this excellent and critically important forum.
Connie Chew
02:21:48
Thanks All!
Mary Jo Poole
02:21:50
Thank you!!!!
Tish Ochoa
02:22:21
Hi I got through to both numbers all is well. See you
Eva Goodwin-Noriega
02:23:41
What’s the name of this song?
Eva Goodwin-Noriega
02:24:13
Sure do love how you end these forums with this music!!
Elizabeth Pataki
02:24:46
wonderful program; congratulations. E
Larry Marotta
02:24:58
The song title is HIGHER GROUND
Eva Goodwin-Noriega
02:25:24
Thanks !
Janet Carpenter
02:25:51
Thank you so much!
Chuck Adelman
02:25:56
Thanks to all for a great educational program to make us all better advocates!