Good Morning, happy to be here today.

Chacholoine Hotie , Good morning everyone

Good morning Darryl and everyone, also happy to be here. Gratefully joining for Tk'emlups te Secwepemc territories.

Good morning Kayla.

Good morning everyone, and happy to be here today as well!

good morning

we may turn David’s camera off due to unstable internet

be right back

please use chat column should you have any questions for Dr. Suzuki

Questions?

Dr.Suzuki: How do we scale the Climate Emergencies to fit within our Emergency Plans? What models should be used and are there any examples? Recovery and Building Back Better or More Resilient will be key I figure

snachalya

Meduh!Thank you!

Meduh , Thank you Mr Suzuki

Can you give us some examples of Biodiversity Laws ?

Haaw'a

Clarify Ecosystem Based Management ?

Dr. Suzuki,Are you a supporter of cultural burning as a way to manage forest fuels, and if so, do you have any language or tips that you have come across which settler government officials/working groups will listen to, and be more supportive of?

what are your thoughts on Water Stewardship Plans ?

thank you Dr. Suzuki.

Thank you Dr Suzuki

Thank You for all your Wise Thoughts Dr.David Suzuki

The things we value (family, culture, relationships) the most are not valued in the economic system so that when we make decisions these values are not included or even considered.

Thank you Dr. Suzuki

Thank you for the inspirational messages and passion you bring to this work Dr Suzuki. I am with you.

Thank you Dr. Suzuki.

kukcstemc Dr. David Suzuki

can here the passion behind what he saying.

Thank you Dr. Suzuki!

Thank you ve4ry much Dr Suzuki, that was great

Thank you Dr Suzuki O'Siem for sharing

my apologies to everyone I have to go to another zoom meeting but will be back in 45 minutes

Questions for TC Tyrone?

Tyrone. Our Community, Nadleh Whut’en First Nation was invited by the Regional District of Bulkley Nechako “to participate” in the completion of HRVA’s in our region. Our leaders decided to decline the invitation to participate and proposed to “partner” with the RDBN.

I see the Digital EOC through Lightship being a way of the future. Ability to tap into EOC professionals who can help manage the emergency from anywhere needs to be investigated and sorted. Tabletops via lightship can be used as training tools going forward

Capacity is not only about specific knowledge that helps to respond to emergencies; most importantly, traditional ecological knowledge is a capacity that we need to share with our neighbouring jurisdictions. To do so, we need the resources to participate not as members but as leaders in emergency management.

Thanks, Tyrone - key point in this process is to continue meeting throughout the winter months to prepare for next season. We are all in this together and we all need to be at the respective tables to provide our leadership.

In light of the urgency we just heard from Dr. Suzuki, does this framework allow for addressing the climate emergency in a substantive way that will allow us to make real change/progress on the climate crisis?

I should have mentioned the monthly town halls hosted by FNLC going forward will be opportunities to contribute/participate.

Hi Chief Spahan. There are several people from ISC on the call, including people from our Headquarters and other regions.

With the emergency program act being changed for FN next year what input is desired for legislation?

The province is definitely also listening. I think TC McNeil has presented a really well thought out vision for moving forward. I really look forward to working on this through the Tri-partite Working group.

Tyrone: Considering the pivotal effect of climate change upon Emergency Management practitioners, have our TEMWG invited Environment Canada representatives to our table?

Thank you so much Tyrone for presenting. Looking forward to moving forward through the Tripartite Working Group.

I just like to say thank you to the presenters. climate change has brought so much issues and the province has not changed even knowing the problems being said. I would like to see more youth involvement, they will be here in the future and they will need to be prepared for the drastic changes that are estimated in their adulthood. covid has also slowed the progress of planning, we are losing more elders and need their input as well. I hope we can all work together to achieve our goals.

Should that be January/February 2022

yes

I believe this is from this past season

thank you for the information provided in this zoom meeting. appreciate all the help and support. greatly appreciated

I have another meeting

yet again a disconnect from provincial regulations. this is horrible as many nations have roads going through the nation and many fires have been set due to vehicles!

SPU systems can be lent out to neighbours as well if they aren’t being used. They are very key for structure protection

Where can you find the SPU Units?

One of the concerns with SPU is the criteria used to determine where sprinklers and other equipment is placed this criteria resulted in several OKIB homes not getting sprinklers and being lost to the fire

Colleen, that is concerning and I agree that forms of triage can be unfortunate for some. However owning the SPU trailer(s) will help the control over where they’re deployed. It is an expensive entry, but definitely has its benefits

We are now looking to protect the forest in general, to help the wildlife, and the BCZ... We have RPF's and planning has begun, get on board and work with us rather than bog us down with Office Policy

Is there a process or discussions in place where BCWS recognizes FN communities as true partners in response? We are here and want to support.

the first responders should move to fuel load reduction and other works post wildfire season

Fire being brought back on to the landscape is critical, however I've been hearing from many people that we should have put these summer fires out as quickly as possible. How do we balance the need for fire and the need to protect communities, infrastructure etc

Brenden,Is this a cloud-based system, or unique to each user?

Brenden how do we reach out your department?

FNESS (250)377-7600 or www.fness.bc.ca

when FNESS says first nations sign on you mean viewing not input ? is there a cost and how do you address access and management of data ?

Hi Nick, Lightship is a Software as a Service that is accessible via your web browser like Chrome, Firefox, Safari, etc. FNESS Provides licenses and access to those who need it, and we manage the data, but first nations across the province maintain ownership, access, and control of their own data. - Nathan Wisla, GIS Data manager

ow current is this map? is updated once a year or would you say it is maintained and current throught the year?

What is used to capture, edit and analyze the data which is then viewed or accessed by Lightship?

All first nations have access to this tool for free, and we distribute access

These maps are updated throughout the year. We use open data, in addition to sources such as collectors who provide us with data, and we upload it to the tool

one issue that came up big is backup generators for community water systems to have water for fire protection . if not pumps are pulling out of creeks which might be in extreme low flow

i have to leave for another meeting. Excellent presentations

We will be hosting a Lightship focused session in the near future. This presentation is an overview of this powerful tool for First Nations EM planning, but can do so much more.

If a First Nation does some work on the ground, say Fire smarting around houses, can the First Nation update the Lightship database or does the First Nation pass the information on to FNESS to update?

one thing we will have to come to grips with is when Lighship starts identifying traditional territories. Having traditional territories on the maps is important but there are so many overlaps.....

Thanks, Cecile. I would like to include our Lands Department in the session.

Work on the ground is updated at the field collection level. It gets uploaded directly

(provided that you use the tool to collect the data, of course)

i didn't see it in this presentation but a neat function of Lightship is to record data over time so you can go back no each year and look at data sets

thank you for asking the questions Kukpi7

Amazing work, Brenden. Thank you.

This tool will position First Nations to lead EM. There is no tool at government level that is this efficient or with such complete data.

Reminder to send EAFs to PREOC Operations :)

Our goal is to have all relevant data in one convenient place to streamline the process of EM for first nations :)

I agree with Chief Lee Spahan to expand on further funding

ISC always passes the Buck and the Prov. has so much red tape...

a coordinated system to find volunteers to come and tag off a community who is on EOC - BCWFS does a change over every 14 days and as a FN community it would be nice to have a list of names of folks who are willing to come in and do a week or so to give some of our EOC team a rest

We not only need recovery to the people we need to recovery the land after the fire!

I believe I read that FNESS would offer training on the use of Lightship to the communities. What does that training format look like? Would it offer training on uploading into the database from the fieldwork level as well?

Is there FNESS representatives located on Vancouver Island or where is the nearest FNESS office to provide training to Vancouver Island?

Hi Tia, It would absolutely include training on all aspects of Lightship relevant to uploading information! Reach out to bmercer@fness.bc.ca to schedule training

Thank you Brenden, I will be in touch.

We would offer training online over zoom, and potentially have trainers come out on-site as well if required.

Hi we are on an island so fire is one of our emergency concerns; is there training available to form a Fire fighting team. We have a small volunteer team and when we had a fire of two homes a few tears ago had to wait for other fire fighters from Port McNeill and Sointula. Second I would as the Emergency Committee to consider Heating and Cooling centres for all communities. We had one fatality during the summer heat wave and applied for cooling units however by the time we sent our request we were denied as we were no longer considered in a Heat Wave. Heating centres in fall and winter as with the wind storms our power goes out regularly. We have managed in patchwork way however they are more frequent now. Thanks and appreciate this forum.

I must leave the meeting for today.

I really hope this process will streamline and reduce the hoops FN EM have to jump through as FNESS have promised it will. Gianakaci for this information today.

Keep up the good work FNESS!!

Thank you Donna, we have received the Economic recovery fund here in Iskut, I applied for in spring . We are Firesmarting our Critical infrastructure, our Elders homes , water plant, BC Hydro plant etc. Next on my list is educating people on Firesmarting their homes. Thank you for bringing up how important it is to take care of our homes , and how important it is

to Fire smart our houses. MEduh

yes thanks to Erik and his team for helping Neskonlith and alleviating any stress felt by our band members and assessing our reserve kukcstemc

I can help communities ensure their emergency contact numbers are up to date. Please reach out, I would love to work with you:Jameson.Mailloux@gov.bc.ca778-974-2381

Thank you Jameson

I need to update our emergency plans, as they are outdated. If you can direct me or suggest someone who can assist our community that would be great. Thank you for the information ! WIll help me get our emergency response plan in place and what to think of.

Hi Natasha, I can definitely help Tahltan Nation with that :)

will these slides be sent to us or available to us?

Yes, the slides will be made available following the forum

Thank you

O'Siem Erik, you took the words right out of my thoughts and mouth thank you for address all that you shared, still look forward in you visit

Erik, very well done. Great presentation

kukcstemc Erik

great presentations - thanks

Provincial and ISC support for the FN communities, we have many homes that do not have access to WIFI if at all phone lines. Provide support for the FN Coms

amazing work you have compiled. great presentation Gianakaci

Huge thank you to FNESS for the presentations this morning! There's a lot of really great work happening; looking forward to continuing to work with you all.

had to wold my lunch down just absorbing it

Never enough coffee

given the severity of wildfires this year, there could be a special session on EM at the Chiefs/BC Cabinet Meet Nov 30-Dec 1

should be a major topic there

co-development is important but by itself does not meet intent of articles 19, 29 and 32 when it comes to EM. more attention needs to be paid to attaining FPIC

Honourable Minister Farmworth: Following the Chief Chapman and former Minister Abbott’s report, our community (Nadleh Whut’en First Nation) started the planning process to establish a Regional Centre of Excellence in Emergency Management in Northern BC. We heard that the current legislation does not allow for the establishment of these centres. Would the new legislation allow for the re-envisioning and restructuring of EM in our province? Is BC committed to follow the Strategic change #2 as proposed in the Chapman and Abbott report? Thank you

I would be interested in finding a alert system that we can use in our community with our EOC.

thank you minister Farmwoth

RECOMMENDATION: to thFNLC, that a Special Session on Emergency management at the Chief's/BC Cabinet meeting on Nov 30th - Dec 01st

I reiterate on that request as well for alert system. I've researched and requested quote from several providers and we just don't have budget for purchase and the yearly fee's, very costly.

its a very fine line tying the hands of participants having to sign NDAs and their ability to effectively inform and seek direction from Chiefs. with DRIPA there needs to be a new way of engaging that is more open and transparent

hands up OS'iem

when we co-developed a memo to cabinet with ISC, the title was removed from the document so we established a negotiating TOR endorsed by Chiefs to undertake the work. this worked fairly well at the federal level. there are provincial processes that are normally secretive that this process should shed a bit more light on to ensure the co-development gets inside doors that used to be closed to us.

questions from leaders for panelists?

question for Bryan, who with other ministries have you had engagement with ? and what was productive/commitments in those engagements sessions ?

how does DM Tara determine what is adequate capacity, both financial and FN, for FN to participate as the Minister described?

to Nick/Merle, is this an opportunity to look at Sec 91/92 authorities to create the appropriate space for FN jurisdiction/control/participation?

Not everyone is part of a Trible Council

Suggest a separate session on EPA with Chiefs

Yes will take forward to request to the Minister for government to government discussions and the priority that they happen

Yesterday there was mention of the 12 Emergency Planning Coordinator (EPC) positions funded by ISC in BC that serve 110 communities (including a few more being funded soon). My position is one of them at Nuu-chah-nulth Tribal Council. Perhaps one suggestion is to utilize the EPC network so that we can help link and promote engagement w/ the Nations that we serve (I work for 14 Nations)?

My apologies as I have to head out another meeting . Thank you much for bring this together and seeing so many people participating :)

Response to Simogyet Spahan: EMBC has connected with all provincial ministries, with a focus on those responsible for hazards. Discussions are primarily about clarifying their roles vis-a-vis EMBC and strengthening their work on hazard risk assessments, EM planning, response and recovery.

I also have to run as I have a 2pm meeting Thanks for putting this together

the EPA modernization needs to be hard wired to the tripartite work FNs will be doing moving from the current bilateral agreement to a tripartite relation fully in line with C15 and DRIPA.

my apologies, I must leave to a community recovery meeting - mussi to all engaged here

Nick/Merle, how might we build in the process the need for the changes going forward ensure leadership is achieving FPIC internally? with adequate capacity, which is currently lacking, most communities don't have the capacity to give leadership a concise mandate on EM

for example, if we co-developed policy and regulation in advance of the required legislation, it would be easier to achieve than the other way round

Would be amazing to see an EPC in every community, or, where it would be functional, at the Tribal Council or Nation Alliance level

Totally agree, Viv; and I was very saddened to see only 4 additional EPCs have been budgeted by ISC...

Speaking my language Viv and Brian.

Having one dedicated contact 24/7 in that paid role would address a lot of coordination challenges

when EMBC engages stakeholders such as FLNRORD, FN need to be there as well as forest practices need to change in the context of size of cuts, protection of waterways and replanting trees for a healthier forest. think of this in line with Article 29 & 32. that stakeholder engagement by EMBC must be fully inline with DRIPA

notes to add to the emergency list food security, water concerns and issues, over crowded homes - homelessness, mental wellness, for staff and community, the protection of our traditional areas and practices, our youth resources. Our education for our children and students - college, and university will be effected for the next 3-5- 10 yrs due to covid-19. parents are still unsure of sending our children to school - will also be long term impacts

we have been raising powerful ideas and raising concerns for years with too little action/response by BC. Hopefully the MOU and this process change that...

Thank you to everyone for the last two days work and discussions. I have to leave for another engaement. Thank you for inviting me into the conversations.

Thank You Merle, FN have been in emergency mode from first declaration, Royal Proclamation.

What is the most important change you would like to see as a result of EPA modernization?

EPA alignment with DRIPA & C15 is so much stronger than EPA modernization

What advice would you give the co-development team?

1) What is the most important change you would like to see as a result of EPA modernization?2) What advice would you give the co-development team?

Haaw'a everyone for the great discussion

consultation with every single first nation, or atleast attempt to. a paid EPC postion for each FN community.

1. Paid EPC to oversee the mitigation, preparedness, response and recovery activities.

Full time paid/funded EPC position for each FN. Emergency management is so important, and not allowed the time it is due.

Hi Kukpi7 Robbins...ISC will reach out to you about comprehensive community plans, other planning that you mentioned.

Legislated resources as this is a legislative responsibility. I agree FN live in a state of emergency most of their lives, equal partnership with equal resources and catch up resources as "we are so behind we sometimes think we are winning."

Going from emergency management to community resiliency.

2. What advice would you give the co-development team?I would suggest remembering what the namesake of the team is. ‘Co’ as a partnership, not one leading the other or ‘allowing’ the other. Just like the climate, these emergencies don’t discriminate. We all live under the same sun, and your emergency will become my emergency sooner rather than later.If it’s a co-development team, make sure it’s just that… a team.

Kukpi7 Robbins...as well as the housing and water issues that you have raised.

2. Jurisdictional rights within territories for recovery activities, and not just be consulted out of technicality for certain industries. 3. A better understanding of FN peoples needs from the province when responding to an emergency (EAF requests). 4. Traditional practices be included in the EPA and the supports for communities to capture this information. 5. Knowledge Keepers be included as key assets for emergency response and compensated. 6. Traditional Assets be included as a recovery cost.

Thank you everyone. amazing forum, so happy I was able to be here.

I forgot to mention the impact from the SARA, moose deer and all wildlife are being impacted, which impacts the rights to the FN and food security.

7. Definitions "Jurisdictional area" to reflect FN rights and titles, and traditional boundaries.

Meduh

Zone by zone and nation by nation, this needs to continue, with real timeframes.

I can be reached at cbrass@fns.bc.ca (604)314-8228 (FNLC EM MOU Coordinator)

Premier needs to live up to his commitment to address the issues of wildfires 12 months of the year, not just during fire season!

thanks everyone. stay safe and take care

Haaw'a Dan and team for the facilitation and technical support