Hi Guys,Jay Radmer Alpental. No Mic No camera. I a bit of a Luddite.

Hello everyone. Wayne Morgan ADD Southern Division. Thank you for the invite. We look forward to seeing what you all have to share.

Welcome to all of you. Feel free to message me with any questions - Shelley Urben, PNWD Director

Let us know your name and where you are from!

“Questions?, Comments” Let us know…

Gary Cummings Hyak

Kathy Alexander, Santiam Pass, OR

Stewart Bowmer 49

Anne Greenwood, Santiam Pass Oregon

Eric Brittingham PD Mt. Bachelor

Kacy Carlson, Mt. Ashland

Jack's presentation fits very nicely into the Psychological First Aid that Kacy will be discussing at 7:00 tonight.

hello from Lookout Pass

Joe Harwood, Willamette Pass/Oregon Region OET

Ted Stensland, Mt. Bachelor

Hi Ted

Michael Mays, Santiam Pass Ski Patrol Oregon

Brett Henyon, Southern Division - NSP Safety Team, patrol at Wintergreen in Virginia

Shirley Cummings HYAK--Northwest Region

Dan Bolduc Santiam Pass

Denise McLaughlin - Bogus Basin

Mary Lou Legg, Southern Division ADD. Home mountain - Snowshoe Mountain, WV.

Equipment check: ski boots (check your toe condition. Is it all worn down from walking?). Alpine binding DIN testing. Avalanche rescue equipment: transceiver, shovel, and probe (how many of you inspect your any shovel and probe?).

Andy Bechdolt, Oregon Region Director

ramjax@icloud.com that is Jack Ramsey’s EMAIL

Colin Riley, Alpental

Toboggan waxing, how often do you wax your toboggan?

As needed

Tom Byron, Southern Division Director. Thanks to Shelley for inviting us, and kudos to all of you for your efforts to broaden the focus on safety concerns.

What do you use to wax?

Welcome to you and your team Tom!

Hi Joseph, we at lookout wax our sleds only once at preseason I think it needs to be again at mid season

Jim Hamilton PNWD Medical Advisor

Jack, what is your magical solution to get OET candidates out of the back seat?

Kevin Roth - Alpental

Hi everybody

Gerry Gallagher - Alpental

Steve Bonham MHSP

At Willamette, we run 100s, 350s and Edges.

Gordy Winterrowd, Mt. Hood

Cascade 100 and 350, and Edge, tail rope is now optional, snowmobile transport both lloaded and empty

Mike Thissell Mt. Hood SP

Santiam Pass: 100, Edge and 350; yes to tail rope; transport with a tow behind; Toboggans transport behind snowmobile but usually with a carrier on the lift;

Joe Harwood here: Asking about back seat while running toboggan.

Cascade 100 and 350, 1 Edge for training: always tailroper; load lift with sled carrier; tow behind sled for Nordic or lower hill transport w/snomo

training weekly with those who want it. up chairlift with Carrier. now with handles folded - used to be handles out. some toboggans uphill by snowmobile due to location.

Edge. Cascade 100, Cascade 350, Tail Rope is dependent on conditions. Snow Mo transport is not normally used. during operating hours. On snow training each year. Uphill using sled carriers. Lap load at MHM is optional.

re: backseat. Single ski falling leaf, Preying Mantis drill

You discussed running 100's in moguls. I'm an advocate for having as many tools in the box as possible. What are your thoughts about running the 100 outside the handles? A technique that keeps the sled flat in the troughs of the bumps.

Mt. Ashland: Cascade 100 only. Yes, tail rope on all loaded toboggan. Yes, snowmobile transport of both loaded and unloaded toboggans. Toboggans are transported on chairlift using a Cascade sled carrier on the bowl-wheel side of the lift. This allows the patroller to exit the unloading ramp in the event of a miss-unload without being impinged between the chair and the bowl-wheel tower.

It is Joel, not Pat Stevens. Wyeast RD

No reason to run outside handles.

49n tail ropers as needed, Mt Spokane tail ropers required

Go Dan Bolduc! You must be from Maine!

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There are a few of us at Mt. Ashland that run outside the handles on special occasions. But we don’t teach it.

Outside in Moguls? Terrible Idea! We proved that at Powerfall years ago!

Powderfall

2K ways to do the dishes…

I also feel that running outside the handles provides less opportunity to put pressure on the chain brake suddenly and requires muscle strength rather than finesse to control the sled.. mnot a winner in my view after 56 years of sled training

McCall Idaho Brundage Mtn Resort and Payette Lakes Ski Patrol.

mt.spokane patrol and region snowboard advisor

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Athletic / Power StanceFalling Leaf1000 stepsStand on 1 skiStraight Run SteppingSkating across the flatsForward platformStriaght Run HoppingHockey StopsStanding Stretch with one ski forwardStriaght run leaning forward and backHop TurnsKick TurnSki w/Tray or Ski Poles Held in FrontSkiing with no polesPreying MantisDolphin360 Spins

This is a list of drills that can be used to improve skier balance. If you look them up on YouTube you can get an idea of what they are and how to do them.

Thanks Jack, very helpful

Kacy’s Email is kacywcarlson@gmail.com

So someone (everyone) is bothered by a fatality. What support does th epatrol provide? How is this implemented?

Jay - you can find some information on the PNWD website - the workshops that Kacy did this fall and winter. I believe we plan to do another beginning PFA workshop this spring.

Of the above list you only need a couple. Make sure you can demonstrate them well before attempting to do so.

What is a wave off?

Some patrols use "clear visually" for wave-off

Good ideas…

we don't have a super sweep but we have a paid patroller on a snowmo for quick reaction incidents

Mt. Bachelor has established sweep procedures for every sweep including wave offs, radio calls, a safety left at the top most position.

Super Sweep for is more to provide transport if we find a case during Sweep. Of course it is also available for Patrollers.

Ceremonies can include a group/team meeting at the end of the shift to recap how the new process worked.

Has anyone else lost audio?

No

No,

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next season we will be in the unique position of having a new peak we will have to sweep. looking at the runs we will have wave offs there

Good plan Rick. What mtn are you at again?

lookout pass come play ;)

Yes, need to do that

To the Southern Division (E.T.) and all, we are running over but know in the next week the recording will be up if interested. QA is coming up shortly

Change is hard. Small steps that are fun or at least interesting. If it’s not fun or at least interesting change is even harder.

"We've always done it that way"... the surest way to wreck an organization.

This was great, thank you for the invite. Valuable information. I agree - getting this change will take some time. Regarding CISM/CISD - many of our areas have access to teams to assist with defusing and debriefings.

Thanks for joining us Brett.

And a reminder PFA is a bit different from the Critical Incident Stress Model

how many management teams offer mental support

Local Fire Departments or local hospitals almost always have mental health counselors.

Need to drop, thanks all for putting this together!

Yes, PFA is more about patroller support and awareness with the ability to reach out for additional resources as needed.

Thanks to all for attending. If you need to drop off, we will have the recording posted to our website within the week.

Thanks Jack and Kacy!

Thank-you for a great session Jack and Kacy

Yes, very nice job Kacy and Jack!

Thanks Jack & Kacy

Thanks Jack and Kacy! Really well done.

thank you all. was very good info

Great presentations Jack and Kacy! I work primarily in Emergency Response and Public Health for the Virginia Dept. of Health. We encourage all of our volunteers for the state to go through PFA training. For their own good as well as to help the public during a disaster. I find it the most beneficial training they can have.

Thank you all for great topics of discussion. Thanks Kacy and Jack. Good job tonight. Got to go.

Thank you facilitators. Best wishes all!

Jack, Kacy, Jodie, Shelley, & Kathy very well done

Jack and Kacy, Jodie and Shelley Thanks!! Joseph.