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Can I get a link to the Seniors Vote background?

what is ACA 11 status? how many Senators and assembly members support Single payer ?

To share on social media and help raise awareness:What's next? California Single Payer update with Healthy California Now and California Nurses Association. Hosted by California Alliance for Retired Americans.https://fb.watch/aZfL9lDQ6E/

Can anyone explain why Kalra did not let the health care bill go to a vote? By forcing a vote, memebers would be foreced to reveal where they stand.

Article on Newsom Administration’s deal with Kaiser Permanente:https://khn.org/news/article/medicaid-kaiser-permanente-contract-newsom/

Can you comment more on the negotiations with Kaiser Permanente regarding MediCal? Is this part of the privatization of Medicaid at the federal level?

Q: Wouldn’t a losing vote meant that we could not reintroduce a bill until TWO years after the fact?

My understanding is that Mr. Kalra also did not want to alienate legislators regarding other bills he is carrying that needed a yes vote. How many other pieces of legislation by Mr. Kalra was he concerned about the vote?

How can we explain to the public the cost of single payer in such a clear way that they will understand that it WILL SAVE US MONEY? Joe Garofoli’s article in the SF Chronicle earlier this week spoke to this point: Better explain the unknown: “Polls have consistently shown that a majority of California voters support single-payer. But advocates still have trouble convincing people — from employers to state legislators — that while they will pay more in taxes under a single-payer system, they will ultimately save money…. Passing the measure would have cost California $314 billion to $391 billion annually, according to an estimate prepared for the Legislature. That’s more than Newsom’s proposed state budget of $286.4 billion. It is challenging to explain in simple terms how savings materialize on the back end of that…”

Totally agree with Art's comments.

AB 1400 Assembly Targets from CNA8 Ken Cooley13 Carlos Villapudua14 Tim Grayson16 Rebecca Bauer-Kahan21 Adam Gray28 Evan Low31 Joaquin Arambula32 Rudy Salas37 Steve Bennett40 James Ramos41 Chris Holden44 Jacqui Irwin45 Jesse Gabriel48 Blanca Rubio52 Freddie Rodriguez56 Eduardo Garcia57 Lisa Calderon58 Cristina Garcia59 Reggie Jones-Sawyer60 Sabrina Cervantes61 Jose Medina62 Autumn Burke64 Mike Gipson65 Sharon Quirk-Silva66 Al Muratsuchi69 Tom Daly70 Patrick O'Donnell74 Cottie Petrie-Norris76 Tasha Boerner Horvath79 Akilah Weber

CNA had stated they were going to work on a savings calculator.

Here’s my quick, dumbed down explanation for taxation: “ Yes, it must be paid for—but we already pay for most of it. Additional taxes required are not in addition to anything (as opponents repeatedly claim) but will REPLACE the much greater costs we now endure (premiums, co-pays, doctor and hospital bills —these will ALL go away). The result is huge net savings for individuals, families and businesses plus the kind of benefits enjoyed in other nations: vision, dental, hearing, long-term care and much more.”

O'Donnell will be gone (not running) so we have an opportunity there.

KCRA News state that single payer costs were in excess of the entire state budget...and left it at that...leaving listerns with the impression that single payer advocates were nuts to want this.

We have to get really good at explaining and I think that would involve the use of graphics so that the PUBLIC AND the legislators SEE in very clear terms that this wold NOT cost us more overall. We cannot just CLAIM that is true, we need to SHOW people to CONVINCE them its true that we would pay less with single payer NOT more!

My new expression is "The cancer of false equivalencies. . . " is proving deadly"

Like a chart that shows you pay this now, you will pay this with single payer.

Once again I totally agree with Sarah

What would premiums be with single payer?

I'm with Sara!!

AB 1400 would have eliminated premiums, deductibles and co-pays.

ACA 11 would have been a PROGRESSIVE tax. Overall out-of-pocket for everyone under $149K would have been a net savings, with superior coverage, including dental/vision/hearing and LONG-TERM care + expanded senior home care options!

CEO and executive salaries.

https://wendellpotter.substack.com/p/while-unitedhealth-reports-24-billion

The single payer health care system of Canada was initiated by British Columbia. Has a study been made of how BC was able to successfully implement this system and ultimately adopted by the national government? This could serve as a model for California.

Question: we are very upset with Ash for pulling AB 1400, but what would you say to him if you spoke to him today? I know there is a danger in going against him in the future, too, because the opposition wants us to be split. What's the best to do going forward about legislators like Ash who have been here for working people?

people need a simple, text and graphic one page informational sheet to clarify and answer concerns. Elizabeth

As a long-time supporter of CNA, in order to have a united campaign for single payer the next time wouldn't it be advisable to work together with all other organizations supporting Single Payer: such as CARA, Health Care for All, Healthy California Now coalition, the California Labor Federation, the Progressive Caucus of the Democratic Party in drafting new legislation?

The Health Care for All - California YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPDUF4Oc1xbDR5LVaA-8KOg has various 30-second video spots. They are designed to challenge the widely accepted belief that we need private insurance. Their ending is currently related to AB1400, but they will be changed to Medicare for All, Single Payer etc. Feel free to use them to help spread the word and start conversations. Spanish versions will be available soon.

Re. the Ash Kalra v. Progressives: My take: a situation where two losing ideas are both correct. In the last analysis, we have to consider WHAT actions/words/positions will best promote and advance our mutual goal?

Another major factor or tactic could be to EXPOSE how much money our legislators get in campaign contributions that influence their policy decisions and even scare the legislators by threatening to fund opponents and run candidates against them. Maybe we need to focus that examination on the Governor who waffled on this after running on it; and the 10 Democrats in the Assembly who we needed to vote for AB 1400 but didn’t because they come from “purple” districts which have more “moderate” Democrats and Republicans.

Not “losing” dammit, OPPOSING positions. Spell check, how could you?

We need to create single payer marketing to get Californians angry at for-profit healthcare companies making huge profits at our expense. A good plan will get them to vote for single payer..

Good to see you Michael. Elizabeth

Michael, we know that, but the public did not get that message.

Ash had two very compelling reasons to not expose his Assembly colleagues to a vote. 1) As he has said repeatedly, he intends to keep working to get more of those on the fence to join in the next attempt. Forcing a vote from them now could force them to take a public stand against that they could have a hard time backing away from. 2) He would also be looking of course at needing votes from these same colleagues on other legislation that he still has in the works for this term. This is a decision that only he could make from a procedural point of view.

People simply do not understand, conceptionalize or believe the numbers. E

\All the disparate groups must come together to work as a single unit. E

Also, all of us need to identify our own representatives as friend or foe in this movement. Support them if they are friends, and challenge or oppose them if they are foes. This can be done for elected officials at ALL levels of public office.

Thank you Dr. Bill—that supports my contention that both his and the Progressives’ positions are justified .

Yes, Dr. Bill.

I would like to know what legislation Mr. Kalra needed to protect votes for that is more important than a Single Payer system in California?

To share and inform others on social media:What's next? California Single Payer update with Healthy California Now and California Nurses Association. Hosted by California Alliance for Retired Americans.https://fb.watch/aZfL9lDQ6E/

One of our biggest problems to overcome will be how to anticipate and counter the future forthcoming professional propaganda from the for-profit stakeholders who want to maintain the current HC system.

Livestream link:https://fb.watch/aZfL9lDQ6E/

I appreciate Dr. Bill but how MANY MORE will DIE as we wait and wait??

Nurses say CVS gave money against it.

Health care is a NATIONAL DEFENSE issue. The pandemic and other catastrophic diseases have shown how true this is. Therefore, it should be the focus of our congress representatives and Senators to sponsor a bill that would move funds for defense for a single payer program in California in the same way that money is spent to pay for weapons development and manufacture.

https://www.chhs.ca.gov/healthycaforall/#public-comments

What can we do as individuals to convince Newsom that he will get his throat ripped out if he vetoed a passed single-payer bill???? Besides the usual phone, email, text contacts.

Don’t we need op-eds in the SF Chronicle, LA Times and in other media that effectively rebut and attack the disingenuousness of the media coverage you mentioned? THAT along with a clear explanation that the public can understand of the cost savings could lay the groundwork for a successful future to win single payer

Why not STRIKE and do a STATEWIDE INITIATIVE...Two more years mean more Bankruptcies and DEATH

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Unions are the key.

One reason why unions might not have yet supported it 100% is because many workers would lose jobs. Their workers handle the insurance system.

why non-profit entity has to lobby? Then that non-profit is “In Name Only”, lack of essence.

Great Job Timekeeping, Cindy!!!

To have your organization affiliate with Healthy California Now:https://healthyca.org/get-involved/

Newsom gets a lot of money from insurance companies. https://www.dailyposter.com/newsoms-big-choice-single-payer-or-his-insurance-donors/

We also need to do a forensic analysis for why all the previous single payer initiatives throughout the U.S. have failed. Specifically in Colorado and in New York City so we can learn going forward.

Won’t there be a great need for health care workers? Won’t they need training, etc? How will that happen?

Michael. How would you deal with Kaiser re their requirement that all their Medicare patients be enrolled in Medicare Advantage?

AB 1400 has a lot of language for a “Just Transition” for out-of-work private insurer bureaucracy workers. Five years of support including job training and priority job placement. Funding set aside specifically for this.

AB 1400 had extensive language on LTSS

Messaging, Messaging, Messaging. We must learn to do a much better job at our communications.

AB1400 did address new jobs transition. Would increase education for new jobs.

A simple visual ie graph or pie chart would help.

100% agree. More town halls, rallies, movie showings, street actions, etc.

Universal HC has to mean ALL of the care for ALL of the people. Anything less is NOT universal.

We need to do fundraising for future single payer bills so we can hire the same ad agencies as United Healthcare and Kaiser will be using against us.

Including undocumented folks

RE: Just Transition for Private Insurer Bureacracy workers.

Regarding “ALL” in the term Medicare-for-All, no reform bill in the U.S. has addressed the life and death need for multilingual and culturally appropriate healthcare like AB 1400 does. This is a big reason why Save Our Seniors Network endorsed it.

President Biden is listening to ACA architect Liz Fowler on keeping DCE's. Only Biden can stop it.

I understand hat the very first Direct Contract was introduced by the then head of CMMI, the former roommate of Jared Kushner (appointed by Trump).

CARA builds senior power and single payer is a perennial issue that the organization advocates for and follows closely. To join CARA:https://californiaalliance.org/join-now/

Right On, Jodi!

Thanks all, gotta jump. The struggle continues! ✊

Big change legislatively needs a strong and persistent social movement. Examples: The movement for womens’ right to vote; the civil rights movement, and the environmental movement. We are in a human rights movement for single payer. It’s a long term struggle that must continue and grow based on learning from what happened to AB1400 and getting better at communicating so fellow Californians .

Get it!

Thank you, Jodi - yes, the burden is on us to increase our reach and education efforts. We cannot rely on legislators to save us. It’s not Kalra’s fault that we did not have the votes.

What have we learned from the defeat of AB 1400?

thank you Jodi

Goodbye everybody. Remember the Health Care for All - California YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPDUF4Oc1xbDR5LVaA-8KOg has various 30-second video spots. They are designed to challenge the widely accepted belief that we need private insurance. Their ending is currently related to AB1400, but they will be changed to different endings, suggestions are welcome. Feel free to use them to help spread the word and start conversations. Spanish versions will be available soon.

CELEBRATION OF BLACK HISTORY MONTHFebruary 18th, 2022, 12 NOONhttps://us06web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZcvceqopzMjEtWjN0dCmjKTVTLELPmb_Oj0?mc_cid=7bd35560de&mc_eid=a1f988af7b

Great forum! Thanks to CARA for organizing.

Great forum thank you everyone

How to schedule meeting with PASC and CARA. JoAnn CannonJcannon@pascla.org