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NEXT STEPS IN THE FIGHT FOR GUARANTEED HEALTH CARE IN CALIFORNIA - Shared screen with speaker view
Melanie Cohen
27:59
I have no sound
Patricia Clark
29:57
Can I get a link to the Seniors Vote background?
Jeffery Tardaguila
30:09
what is ACA 11 status? how many Senators and assembly members support Single payer ?
California Alliance for Retired Americans (Jenni)
30:23
To share on social media and help raise awareness:What's next? California Single Payer update with Healthy California Now and California Nurses Association. Hosted by California Alliance for Retired Americans.https://fb.watch/aZfL9lDQ6E/
Jo Carson
30:35
Can anyone explain why Kalra did not let the health care bill go to a vote? By forcing a vote, memebers would be foreced to reveal where they stand.
California Alliance for Retired Americans (Jenni)
32:25
Article on Newsom Administration’s deal with Kaiser Permanente:https://khn.org/news/article/medicaid-kaiser-permanente-contract-newsom/
Lynn jacobsson
33:13
Can you comment more on the negotiations with Kaiser Permanente regarding MediCal? Is this part of the privatization of Medicaid at the federal level?
Taiji Miyagawa
33:29
Q: Wouldn’t a losing vote meant that we could not reintroduce a bill until TWO years after the fact?
Kathryn Donahue
35:14
My understanding is that Mr. Kalra also did not want to alienate legislators regarding other bills he is carrying that needed a yes vote. How many other pieces of legislation by Mr. Kalra was he concerned about the vote?
art persyko
35:15
How can we explain to the public the cost of single payer in such a clear way that they will understand that it WILL SAVE US MONEY? Joe Garofoli’s article in the SF Chronicle earlier this week spoke to this point: Better explain the unknown: “Polls have consistently shown that a majority of California voters support single-payer. But advocates still have trouble convincing people — from employers to state legislators — that while they will pay more in taxes under a single-payer system, they will ultimately save money…. Passing the measure would have cost California $314 billion to $391 billion annually, according to an estimate prepared for the Legislature. That’s more than Newsom’s proposed state budget of $286.4 billion. It is challenging to explain in simple terms how savings materialize on the back end of that…”
Terry Brady
37:16
Totally agree with Art's comments.
Dwane Camp Jr
37:16
AB 1400 Assembly Targets from CNA8 Ken Cooley13 Carlos Villapudua14 Tim Grayson16 Rebecca Bauer-Kahan21 Adam Gray28 Evan Low31 Joaquin Arambula32 Rudy Salas37 Steve Bennett40 James Ramos41 Chris Holden44 Jacqui Irwin45 Jesse Gabriel48 Blanca Rubio52 Freddie Rodriguez56 Eduardo Garcia57 Lisa Calderon58 Cristina Garcia59 Reggie Jones-Sawyer60 Sabrina Cervantes61 Jose Medina62 Autumn Burke64 Mike Gipson65 Sharon Quirk-Silva66 Al Muratsuchi69 Tom Daly70 Patrick O'Donnell74 Cottie Petrie-Norris76 Tasha Boerner Horvath79 Akilah Weber
Taiji Miyagawa
37:19
CNA had stated they were going to work on a savings calculator.
patty harvey
38:03
Here’s my quick, dumbed down explanation for taxation: “ Yes, it must be paid for—but we already pay for most of it. Additional taxes required are not in addition to anything (as opponents repeatedly claim) but will REPLACE the much greater costs we now endure (premiums, co-pays, doctor and hospital bills —these will ALL go away). The result is huge net savings for individuals, families and businesses plus the kind of benefits enjoyed in other nations: vision, dental, hearing, long-term care and much more.”
Patricia Clark
38:28
O'Donnell will be gone (not running) so we have an opportunity there.
Jo Carson
38:44
KCRA News state that single payer costs were in excess of the entire state budget...and left it at that...leaving listerns with the impression that single payer advocates were nuts to want this.
art persyko
40:12
We have to get really good at explaining and I think that would involve the use of graphics so that the PUBLIC AND the legislators SEE in very clear terms that this wold NOT cost us more overall. We cannot just CLAIM that is true, we need to SHOW people to CONVINCE them its true that we would pay less with single payer NOT more!
Gerald Hunt
41:08
My new expression is "The cancer of false equivalencies. . . " is proving deadly"
Patricia Clark
41:12
Like a chart that shows you pay this now, you will pay this with single payer.
Terry Brady
42:00
Once again I totally agree with Sarah
david walker
42:01
What would premiums be with single payer?
Patricia Clark
42:11
I'm with Sara!!
Taiji Miyagawa
42:37
AB 1400 would have eliminated premiums, deductibles and co-pays.
Taiji Miyagawa
43:57
ACA 11 would have been a PROGRESSIVE tax. Overall out-of-pocket for everyone under $149K would have been a net savings, with superior coverage, including dental/vision/hearing and LONG-TERM care + expanded senior home care options!
Jo Carson
45:30
CEO and executive salaries.
Taiji Miyagawa
45:44
https://wendellpotter.substack.com/p/while-unitedhealth-reports-24-billion
Anthony Avila
46:22
The single payer health care system of Canada was initiated by British Columbia. Has a study been made of how BC was able to successfully implement this system and ultimately adopted by the national government? This could serve as a model for California.
Connie Chew
47:26
Question: we are very upset with Ash for pulling AB 1400, but what would you say to him if you spoke to him today? I know there is a danger in going against him in the future, too, because the opposition wants us to be split. What's the best to do going forward about legislators like Ash who have been here for working people?
Elizabeth Pataki
48:07
people need a simple, text and graphic one page informational sheet to clarify and answer concerns. Elizabeth
Bruce McLean
48:10
As a long-time supporter of CNA, in order to have a united campaign for single payer the next time wouldn't it be advisable to work together with all other organizations supporting Single Payer: such as CARA, Health Care for All, Healthy California Now coalition, the California Labor Federation, the Progressive Caucus of the Democratic Party in drafting new legislation?
Nel Benningshof
48:23
The Health Care for All - California YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPDUF4Oc1xbDR5LVaA-8KOg has various 30-second video spots. They are designed to challenge the widely accepted belief that we need private insurance. Their ending is currently related to AB1400, but they will be changed to Medicare for All, Single Payer etc. Feel free to use them to help spread the word and start conversations. Spanish versions will be available soon.
patty harvey
49:20
Re. the Ash Kalra v. Progressives: My take: a situation where two losing ideas are both correct. In the last analysis, we have to consider WHAT actions/words/positions will best promote and advance our mutual goal?
art persyko
49:24
Another major factor or tactic could be to EXPOSE how much money our legislators get in campaign contributions that influence their policy decisions and even scare the legislators by threatening to fund opponents and run candidates against them. Maybe we need to focus that examination on the Governor who waffled on this after running on it; and the 10 Democrats in the Assembly who we needed to vote for AB 1400 but didn’t because they come from “purple” districts which have more “moderate” Democrats and Republicans.
patty harvey
49:54
Not “losing” dammit, OPPOSING positions. Spell check, how could you?
Vic Bernsdorff
49:59
We need to create single payer marketing to get Californians angry at for-profit healthcare companies making huge profits at our expense. A good plan will get them to vote for single payer..
Elizabeth Pataki
51:32
Good to see you Michael. Elizabeth
Patricia Clark
52:47
Michael, we know that, but the public did not get that message.
Dr Bill Honigman
54:05
Ash had two very compelling reasons to not expose his Assembly colleagues to a vote. 1) As he has said repeatedly, he intends to keep working to get more of those on the fence to join in the next attempt. Forcing a vote from them now could force them to take a public stand against that they could have a hard time backing away from. 2) He would also be looking of course at needing votes from these same colleagues on other legislation that he still has in the works for this term. This is a decision that only he could make from a procedural point of view.
Elizabeth Pataki
55:27
People simply do not understand, conceptionalize or believe the numbers. E
Elizabeth Pataki
57:42
\All the disparate groups must come together to work as a single unit. E
Dr Bill Honigman
58:10
Also, all of us need to identify our own representatives as friend or foe in this movement. Support them if they are friends, and challenge or oppose them if they are foes. This can be done for elected officials at ALL levels of public office.
patty harvey
58:23
Thank you Dr. Bill—that supports my contention that both his and the Progressives’ positions are justified .
Joseph Donahue
58:49
Yes, Dr. Bill.
Kathryn Donahue
58:56
I would like to know what legislation Mr. Kalra needed to protect votes for that is more important than a Single Payer system in California?
California Alliance for Retired Americans (Jenni)
59:01
To share and inform others on social media:What's next? California Single Payer update with Healthy California Now and California Nurses Association. Hosted by California Alliance for Retired Americans.https://fb.watch/aZfL9lDQ6E/
Vic Bernsdorff
59:17
One of our biggest problems to overcome will be how to anticipate and counter the future forthcoming professional propaganda from the for-profit stakeholders who want to maintain the current HC system.
California Alliance for Retired Americans (Jenni)
59:21
Livestream link:https://fb.watch/aZfL9lDQ6E/
Melanie Cohen
59:51
I appreciate Dr. Bill but how MANY MORE will DIE as we wait and wait??
Judy Jackson
01:00:34
Nurses say CVS gave money against it.
Anthony Avila
01:00:48
Health care is a NATIONAL DEFENSE issue. The pandemic and other catastrophic diseases have shown how true this is. Therefore, it should be the focus of our congress representatives and Senators to sponsor a bill that would move funds for defense for a single payer program in California in the same way that money is spent to pay for weapons development and manufacture.
Norbert De Anda
01:01:26
https://www.chhs.ca.gov/healthycaforall/#public-comments
patty harvey
01:02:02
What can we do as individuals to convince Newsom that he will get his throat ripped out if he vetoed a passed single-payer bill???? Besides the usual phone, email, text contacts.
art persyko
01:02:08
Don’t we need op-eds in the SF Chronicle, LA Times and in other media that effectively rebut and attack the disingenuousness of the media coverage you mentioned? THAT along with a clear explanation that the public can understand of the cost savings could lay the groundwork for a successful future to win single payer
Melanie Cohen
01:02:47
Why not STRIKE and do a STATEWIDE INITIATIVE...Two more years mean more Bankruptcies and DEATH
California Alliance for Retired Americans (Jenni)
01:02:47
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Patricia Clark
01:07:25
Unions are the key.
Connie Chew
01:09:41
One reason why unions might not have yet supported it 100% is because many workers would lose jobs. Their workers handle the insurance system.
Sylvia Corrales
01:10:01
why non-profit entity has to lobby? Then that non-profit is “In Name Only”, lack of essence.
Valeeta Pharr
01:10:19
Great Job Timekeeping, Cindy!!!
California Alliance for Retired Americans (Jenni)
01:10:19
To have your organization affiliate with Healthy California Now:https://healthyca.org/get-involved/
Taiji Miyagawa
01:10:55
Newsom gets a lot of money from insurance companies. https://www.dailyposter.com/newsoms-big-choice-single-payer-or-his-insurance-donors/
Vic Bernsdorff
01:11:22
We also need to do a forensic analysis for why all the previous single payer initiatives throughout the U.S. have failed. Specifically in Colorado and in New York City so we can learn going forward.
Madelaine Eaton
01:11:23
Won’t there be a great need for health care workers? Won’t they need training, etc? How will that happen?
Bruce McLean
01:12:04
Michael. How would you deal with Kaiser re their requirement that all their Medicare patients be enrolled in Medicare Advantage?
Taiji Miyagawa
01:12:58
AB 1400 has a lot of language for a “Just Transition” for out-of-work private insurer bureaucracy workers. Five years of support including job training and priority job placement. Funding set aside specifically for this.
Peter Shapiro
01:13:04
AB 1400 had extensive language on LTSS
Terry Brady
01:13:53
Messaging, Messaging, Messaging. We must learn to do a much better job at our communications.
Cynthia Kinavey
01:14:26
AB1400 did address new jobs transition. Would increase education for new jobs.
Madelaine Eaton
01:14:26
A simple visual ie graph or pie chart would help.
Dr Bill Honigman
01:14:33
100% agree. More town halls, rallies, movie showings, street actions, etc.
Dr Bill Honigman
01:15:52
Universal HC has to mean ALL of the care for ALL of the people. Anything less is NOT universal.
Vic Bernsdorff
01:16:07
We need to do fundraising for future single payer bills so we can hire the same ad agencies as United Healthcare and Kaiser will be using against us.
Carol Draizen
01:16:26
Including undocumented folks
Taiji Miyagawa
01:19:49
RE: Just Transition for Private Insurer Bureacracy workers.
Taiji Miyagawa
01:21:13
Regarding “ALL” in the term Medicare-for-All, no reform bill in the U.S. has addressed the life and death need for multilingual and culturally appropriate healthcare like AB 1400 does. This is a big reason why Save Our Seniors Network endorsed it.
Dr Bill Honigman
01:21:32
President Biden is listening to ACA architect Liz Fowler on keeping DCE's. Only Biden can stop it.
patty harvey
01:21:34
I understand hat the very first Direct Contract was introduced by the then head of CMMI, the former roommate of Jared Kushner (appointed by Trump).
California Alliance for Retired Americans (Jenni)
01:23:46
CARA builds senior power and single payer is a perennial issue that the organization advocates for and follows closely. To join CARA:https://californiaalliance.org/join-now/
Connie Chew
01:24:00
Right On, Jodi!
Dr Bill Honigman
01:24:39
Thanks all, gotta jump. The struggle continues! ✊
art persyko
01:24:40
Big change legislatively needs a strong and persistent social movement. Examples: The movement for womens’ right to vote; the civil rights movement, and the environmental movement. We are in a human rights movement for single payer. It’s a long term struggle that must continue and grow based on learning from what happened to AB1400 and getting better at communicating so fellow Californians .
art persyko
01:24:55
Get it!
Taiji Miyagawa
01:26:59
Thank you, Jodi - yes, the burden is on us to increase our reach and education efforts. We cannot rely on legislators to save us. It’s not Kalra’s fault that we did not have the votes.
art persyko
01:27:09
What have we learned from the defeat of AB 1400?
Kathi Fotinos
01:27:17
thank you Jodi
Nel Benningshof
01:27:25
Goodbye everybody. Remember the Health Care for All - California YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPDUF4Oc1xbDR5LVaA-8KOg has various 30-second video spots. They are designed to challenge the widely accepted belief that we need private insurance. Their ending is currently related to AB1400, but they will be changed to different endings, suggestions are welcome. Feel free to use them to help spread the word and start conversations. Spanish versions will be available soon.
California Alliance for Retired Americans (Jenni)
01:27:34
CELEBRATION OF BLACK HISTORY MONTHFebruary 18th, 2022, 12 NOONhttps://us06web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZcvceqopzMjEtWjN0dCmjKTVTLELPmb_Oj0?mc_cid=7bd35560de&mc_eid=a1f988af7b
Phillip Kim
01:27:36
Great forum! Thanks to CARA for organizing.
Kathi Fotinos
01:27:46
Great forum thank you everyone
JoAnn Cannon
01:28:03
How to schedule meeting with PASC and CARA. JoAnn CannonJcannon@pascla.org