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Portman's Ponce on Ponce Presentation - Shared screen with speaker view
Stephen W. Ramsden
06:19
Hey Mike!
Stephen W. Ramsden
06:43
Mike Greene can you text me your email? 404-543-7616
Diego Medina
09:26
Don’t forget to mute, everyone
Karen Jane Wright
12:31
Please MUTE yourselves 🙂
Amy Harward
14:03
https://vahi.org/committees/planning/masterplan/
VHCA Board
14:24
Me (Alex Saucedo, planning co-chair) is the admin, and yes I can
iPhone
25:16
How much parking will be available for the increased car traffic this development will bring in?
Pat Noto
28:13
I think these new buildings are 3-4 stories too tall and will impede views of midtown/downtown. What have the local residents said about this project and what are our options to downsize this current proposal?
Carol Shunnarah
29:45
Will the residential be condos or apartments?
Sandra J (ATL)
30:43
Will this ultimately lead to widening Maiden street
Diego Medina
31:06
Similar question, are there plans to widen Ponce Place?
Stephen W. Ramsden
32:05
I think these new buildings are 3-4 stories too tall and will impede views of midtown/downtown. What have the local residents said about this project and what are our options to downsize this current proposal?I am the closest neighbor to this project and can’t wait for the bulldozers. This is widely anticipated by the 10 homes next to it to the North.The bars and dump that is there now is absolutely horrible and anything will be better.
William Sankey
33:22
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iPhone
34:10
You confirmed that Chipotle will be going in- are there plans to include local businesses in this space? I worry that retail space will be priced out at a level only national chains can afford
Diego Medina
34:10
What kind of increase can we expect in noise level / noise pollution? Will there be loud music on the roof, similar to PCM?
Stephen W. Ramsden
35:11
What kind of increase can we expect in noise level / noise pollution? Will there be loud music on the roof, similar to PCM?This will be a dramatic reduction in the horrible noise that comes from this corner now as it has two extremely popular druggy bars that are open until 2-4AM.
Pat Noto
35:19
Replying to "I think these new bu…"Agreed the burned out dumps are hideous and shameful. But I walk in that area often am I worry these huge complexes will continue to grow and spread east, west, and possibly north. Beyond the visual impact, I’m not sure adding 350 new apartments is the scale of what that intersection needs.
Pat Noto
36:12
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Vidisha Singh
37:03
How does the MARTA bus stop spacing at Ponce De Leon and Ponce Place look? Currently it does have a stop right in front of the Chipolte
Stephen W. Ramsden
38:27
How does the MARTA bus stop spacing at Ponce De Leon and Ponce Place look? Currently it does have a stop right in front of the ChipolteDo you live within a couple blocks of this?
Stephen W. Ramsden
39:04
How does the MARTA bus stop spacing at Ponce De Leon and Ponce Place look? Currently it does have a stop right in front of the ChipolteDo you live within a couple blocks of this?Sorry/… wrong person
Vidisha Singh
39:07
Yes, 1.5 blocks. I am living in this area
4046618719
40:13
Any thoughts to a pedestrian overpass over Ponce Place to increase pedestrian safety. It’s sketchy crossing Ponce place there because it’s downhill. Or maybe a raised crosswalk across Ponce place to make it safer.
Pat Noto
40:39
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Stephen W. Ramsden
41:10
Replying to "I think these new bu..."The corner is currently a crime infested, unsafe, terribly dilapidated dump with no street signs, no police presence, constant vagrant camps, crime, etc.I’ll take this project as is any day
4046618719
42:02
It’s also a nightmare considering crossing Ponce right there. With more pedestrians, more danger. It’s downhill on Ponce so again dangerous.
Chase Johnson
42:39
portman gets a lot of flack for their bad pedestrian bridges of yesterday and i don’t think they would do another one
Karen Feigh
44:11
Going south on Ponce Place, I think the lanes should be 1 RT only, one straight or turn in either direction, and one LT only. Based on current demands.
Diego Medina
44:11
What kind of increase can we expect in noise level / noise pollution? Will there be loud music on the roof, similar to PCM?This will be a dramatic reduction in the horrible noise that comes from this corner now as it has two extremely popular druggy bars that are open until 2-4AM.I was thinking more in the lines of the rooftop. Music carries further the higher up it is. We can hear the music from PCM, because nothing is in its way.But you bring up a good point. Will there be other loud clubs and bars that take their place?
Dane
44:15
The fact that St Charles is not part of the traffic study is a big red flag for me
Karen Feigh
45:20
That left into the far West entrance is a HORRIBLE idea
William Sankey
45:41
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45:45
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Pat Noto
45:55
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iPhone
46:10
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4046618719
46:38
Raised cross walk crossing Ponce place so that you can’t have vehicles flying onto Ponce and mowing down pedestrians.
Kent Strickland
47:53
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47:56
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Dane
48:28
We don’t want people speeding down St Charles either…
William Sankey
48:40
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48:50
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Brandon Folsom
48:59
Where is the extra lane for the left turn coming from? The turn barely has enough space for the current 3 lanes.
Christopher Howell
49:26
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49:30
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Christopher Howell
49:48
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RWicker
49:56
The second left turn from PDL Place onto PDL should be a combination left/straight lane and the right/straight lane should be right only. I have had to wait way too long to turn right when someone wants to go straight to 725/Krogers. Thanks!
Pavel
49:58
Where is the extra lane for the left turn coming from? The turn barely has enough space for the current 3 lanes.They'll eat into the west parcel to add space for an extra lane.
Pat Noto
50:08
Replying to "Where is the extra l…"Seems they’re proposing widening Ponce Place near Ponce.
Brandon Folsom
50:43
How is that going to line up with the Kroger entrance?
Diego Medina
51:20
Love to see raised crosswalks
Cary Aiken
51:33
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Kent Strickland
51:56
What about north/south-bound traffic along Barnett and N. Highland?
Stephen W. Ramsden
52:17
The bulb-outs and medianettes are a fantastic idea and have long been needed on Ponce Place.
Kit Sutherland
53:03
The bulb-outs and medianettes are a fantastic idea and have long been needed on Ponce Place.Agreed.
Brad Ruffkess
53:34
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Karen Feigh
53:35
North of PDL Terrace going south you’d need to fix the tree root issue before installing these center things
Virginia
53:36
Do the medianettes impact parking along Ponce Place?
Karen Feigh
54:01
Replying to "Do the medianettes i…"They probably would
Stephen W. Ramsden
54:27
Reducing illegal parking.
Samantha Rein
54:35
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William Sankey
54:39
Is there the possibility to have raised crosswalks at the other Ponce de Leon pl intersections as well in addition to the bulb outs?
Pat Noto
54:58
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iPhone
55:59
Have we considered neighborhood parking permits for the streets that will be hit the hardest by increased traffic? I already have trouble finding street parking outside of my home on weekends
Cary Aiken
56:06
On another matter, it is disappointing that your plan did not incorporate the charming 8 arm building. It could have been used as a Beltline Welcome Center or similar gathering place.
Carol Shunnarah
56:12
I live on PDL place. How about Instead of the mediannettes
Diego Medina
56:12
What about Dreary?
Karen Feigh
56:22
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Brandon Folsom
57:01
So you're removing an entire side of parking?
Christopher Howell
57:07
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Vidisha Singh
57:13
What about bike lanes with boundaries to prevent getting doored by parked cars in the shoulders?
Krista Mantsch
57:25
Ugh - how about a bike lane on the OTHER side of the cars for protection from moving traffic!
Christopher Howell
57:28
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Carol Shunnarah
57:33
I live on PDL place. What about using the raised rather than the mediannettes?
Virginia
57:35
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Karen Feigh
57:36
Could we drop speed limit on St. Charles to 25?
Sandra J (ATL)
57:43
what changes are coming to Barnett street
Stephen W. Ramsden
57:44
Let’s get to the bulldozing Friends bar part
Chase Johnson
57:47
Ugh - how about a bike lane on the OTHER side of the cars for protection from moving traffic!YESSSSS!!!
Dane
57:50
There is parking on both sides of at Charles
Brandon Folsom
58:10
How many more cars are you estimating for Maiden use?
Pat Noto
58:12
Replying to "What about north/sou…"Obviously with 350+ new residents and cars, the traffic will increase significantly for Barnett (maybe N Highland, too) and likely impact Virginia Ave traffic as well. We’re traffic studies done for these impacted neighborhoods?
Pat Noto
58:30
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Amy Harward
58:41
St Charles will have parking on both sides. And bike lanes on both sides. The graphic shared was not a perfect an example.
William Sankey
59:05
Will there be a new crosswalk at Maiden and Bonaventure due to all the new traffic? There is no cross walk there today due to low traffic.
Dane
59:05
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Brandon Folsom
01:01:45
What are you planning for deliveries of products to these new businesses? Is there a dedicated area that does not involve semis parked on Ponce Ave like Chipotle does now?
Brandon Folsom
01:02:04
Sorry, Ponce PL**
Lucy
01:02:14
Replying to "What are you plannin..."Deliveries and trash pick up.
Karen Feigh
01:02:29
Really? Have you been at that intersection in the morning?
Cary Aiken
01:02:56
The whole project looks very similar to the Murder Kroger project. Walking on the Beltline will be like walking through a canyon of blandness.
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Diego Medina
01:03:37
Sounds like an improvement for what’s there
Carol Shunnarah
01:03:56
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Diego Medina
01:04:06
What kind of increase can we expect in noise level / noise pollution? Will there be loud music on the roof, similar to PCM?
Brandon Folsom
01:04:07
During construction - what's the impact of lane closures anticipated?
Pat Noto
01:04:09
Is there a smaller scale proposal?
William Sankey
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Karen Feigh
01:04:44
For the poor folks of us who live on St. Charles leave the parking against the curb
iPhone
01:04:53
Replying to "Sounds like an impro…"There is a middle ground between current state & cookie cutter… but I don’t think we’ve found it
Chase Johnson
01:05:37
the scale is good and should be taller on the belt line side
Chase Johnson
01:05:48
its really not tall enough
Pat Noto
01:05:48
Replying to "The whole project lo…"Yes, like the canyon where New Realm and the new glass towers created.
Pat Noto
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Brad Ruffkess
01:06:50
Replying to "What about north/sou…"Can we respond to this?
Chris Rome
01:07:19
Speed limit needs a study to change from 30 to 25. State law requires this for enforcement.
Karen Feigh
01:07:37
Can you post up the results of your simulations for the different turn lane configurations? I’d like to understand how 2 L is good in morning traffic which is mostly to the right.
Dane
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iPhone
01:08:05
Replying to "The whole project lo…"I’m all in for the growth & development of our city, but I’m NOT in for ATL become a generic, cookie-cutter landscape
Lucy
01:08:25
Has there been a sun study done for this site? I am curious how the massing of a 7-8 floor building will affect the adjacent residences.
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Chase Johnson
01:08:56
as they have said the residents next door want this development
Brandon Folsom
01:09:06
You don't live in the neighborhood during festivals added traffic - your comfort means nothing to me
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Pavel
01:10:07
Water drains southward on Ponce Place & during heavy rains tends to collect a lot of debris around St. Charles & Ponce Place. It's getting worse as more and more dirt and landscaping rocks collect. I hope that's taken into consideration as improvements to that intersection takes place.
nancy
01:10:50
What is the expected increase southbound on Ponce Place? Backs up past St. Charles at peak times already.
Karen Feigh
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Diego Medina
01:11:54
So the left turn into the parking garage when going east on Ponce looks like it will back up quickly. Was there any consideration to not allow a left turn there?
Clay Cooper
01:13:21
widening from where to here on PDLP?
Clay Cooper
01:13:36
where to where
Pat Noto
01:13:54
Replying to "What is the expected…"Seems their study says no impact to current traffic North of the project…hard to understand going from basically 0 residents in this area to 350+ new residents. Strains credulity.
Kent Strickland
01:14:05
Replying to "What is the expected..."Right, traffic is already bad so adding this many units will only make things worse. The problem spots along Ponce Pl., Barnett, & N. Highland will surely see the impact.
Kent Strickland
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Karen Feigh
01:14:54
Can you show how the left turn into the far west entrance from PDL doesn’t create chaos? This needs to be dropped.
Diego Medina
01:15:23
I do appreciate the extra effort Portman is doing. Very excited for this development
Chase Johnson
01:16:10
this project is going to be great! love having more people being able to enjoy our wonderful neighborhood and support our businesses!
Clay Cooper
01:16:30
Will all of these questions/statements be tallied and properly answered in a document? PLEASE say yes!!!
iPhone
01:16:46
Can we add some color to these buildings? All throughout VaHi you see colorful doors, trim, accents, artwork, etc… would love to see this development follow suit!
iPhone
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Diego Medina
01:17:52
Not boring everybody
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Clay Cooper
01:19:13
Jessica - Is this current doc you are referring available online? or maybe already?
Kit Sutherland
01:19:35
this project is going to be great! love having more people being able to enjoy our wonderful neighborhood and support our businesses!Definitely!
Kent Strickland
01:20:05
I think there's generally desire for this development. There were a lot of issues with the current tenants or lack thereof. At the same time, those businesses provided some treasured memories and a neighborhood/local vibe that would like to be continued moving forward. So how can these developers guarantee that the neighborhood continues to be served both at a logistical/tangible level and at a cultural/intangible level. So we don't end up with Lulu Lemon and the like.
Amy Harward
01:21:09
Jessica - Is this current doc you are referring available online? or maybe already?We’ll post the final docs on VaHi.org and in the Voice when they are ready!
Karen Feigh
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Diego Medina
01:22:06
Thank you Mike. 🙂
Brandon Folsom
01:22:09
How long is construction going to take place?
Stephen W. Ramsden
01:22:30
I think there's generally desire for this development. There were a lot of issues with the current tenants or lack thereof. At the same time, those businesses provided some treasured memories and a neighborhood/local vibe that would like to be continued moving forward. So how can these developers guarantee that the neighborhood continues to be served both at a logistical/tangible level and at a cultural/intangible level. So we don't end up with Lulu Lemon and the like.You can’t be serious.
Clay Cooper
01:23:13
We can't wait to hear the bulldozer noise!!!!
iPhone
01:23:17
Replying to "I think there's gene…"Hey man let’s be respectful, we’re all neighbors on this call.
William Sankey
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Stephen W. Ramsden
01:23:38
We can't wait to hear the bulldozer noise!!!!absolutely
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Katherine
01:24:02
You are missing the point. Appropriate development is what we are wanting, not too big and too modern for the neighborhood. Yes we love Mike and Portman, but that will not keep the traffic down in the surrounding neighborhood or prevent the Beltline from looking like a concrete canyon.
Pat Noto
01:24:37
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Stephen W. Ramsden
01:26:00
You are missing the point. Appropriate development is what we are wanting, not too big and too modern for the neighborhood. Yes we love Mike and Portman, but that will not keep the traffic down in the surrounding neighborhood or prevent the Beltline from looking like a concrete canyon.I think you’re missing the point, neighbor. We cannot get any police, city or VHCA involvement in doing anything about the absolutely horribly dilapidated nature of this entire block. Portman is willing to do so.I live next to it with 9 other homes who ALL WANT THIS AS IS, as soon as possible.What makes you think we are somehow wrong and missing the point?
nancy
01:27:17
Silly question, but will become even more important with increased traffic - the jag at Greenwood - when one stops on Ponce Place and then proceeds to make a left hand turn onto Greenwood - is that a true left-hand turn and you need to yield before making your turn or is your turn a continuation of your initial stop???
Pat Noto
01:27:25
While I can’t imagine the frustration and impact of the current situation has on Mr Ramden and his immediate neighbors, the scale still seems overblown and it WILL impact other neighbors beyond the immediate intersection and study area.
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Stephen W. Ramsden
01:28:12
While I can’t imagine the frustration and impact of the current situation has on Mr Ramden and his immediate neighbors, the scale still seems overblown and it WILL impact other neighbors beyond the immediate intersection and study area.Thats true. I believe these meetings are being conducted so that everyone’s reasonable concerns can be addressed. Good point and thanks.
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William Sankey
01:28:48
Can you address the Bonaventure/maiden intersection which will get a lot of new traffic? Also it is not marked for crosswalks and it is not a four way stop...
Chase Johnson
01:30:06
While I can’t imagine the frustration and impact of the current situation has on Mr Ramden and his immediate neighbors, the scale still seems overblown and it WILL impact other neighbors beyond the immediate intersection and study area.
Chase Johnson
01:30:33
While I can’t imagine the frustration and impact of the current situation has on Mr Ramden and his immediate neighbors, the scale still seems overblown and it WILL impact other neighbors beyond the immediate intersection and study area.It absolutely will impact the entire neighborhood. However, none of us can expect to live within a quarter mile of one of the busiest roads in the city and somehow to be exempt from “traffic.”
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Diego Medina
01:33:51
Thanks Amy
iPhone
01:34:03
Thank you for the continued involvement!
Clay Cooper
01:34:13
thank you Amy!!!
William Sankey
01:35:07
Great work Portman team and VAHI planning group. Looking forward to this project and continuing to help our neighborhood evolve for the better.
Pavel
01:35:15
Proposals to make the construction noise more bearable-- would love to hear about that please. This will diminish our ability to enjoy our home for a good long while so want to see some real thought around this issue please. Thank you.
Kit Sutherland
01:36:48
Great work Portman team and VAHI planning group. Looking forward to this project and continuing to help our neighborhood evolve for the better.Agreed. Good job to everyone involved.
Amy Harward
01:37:10
Thanks all! Please sign up for The Voice and the VaHi social channels for updates!
Chris Beauregard
01:37:26
Incredibly professional by this team, thank you for the time
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Amy Harward
01:38:01
Ponce and Ponce page with all presentations and updates: https://vahi.org/committees/planning/ponceandponce/?sfw=pass1677688542
Clay Cooper
01:38:38
Thanks Mike /Amy/team. Can you please keep this type of meeting an ongoing regular focus?
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01:39:07
Sign up for The Voice: https://vahi.org/news-virginia-highland-civic-association/join-mailing-list/
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Pavel
01:40:33
Thanks for meeting Portmand and VaHi!
Ken Lavine
01:40:33
Thanks to all!
Leah Matthews
01:40:36
Thank you, everyone!
Diego Medina
01:40:49
Thanks everyone! Looking forward to this
Clay Cooper
01:41:18
please make the recording available
Clay Cooper
01:41:23
thanks all...
VHCA Board
01:41:34
It will be