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Peer-Run Crisis Alternatives: Warm Lines, Respites, Wellness Centers, Community Response Teams, and PAD’s - Shared screen with speaker view
Matthea Little Smith
10:56
Hello, Matthea from NAMI Polk County Iowa, Des Moines, IA
Howard Trachtman
11:18
join my low volume peer-run respite googlegroup hdt@mbrlc.org 781 642 0368
Cherene Caraco (she/her) @ PRN
11:20
Welcome, Matthea
Dean Clickner
12:45
Hello from the Adirondacks! Dean Clickner, Director, Warren Washington Rose House/People USA, Glens Falls, NY. Enjoy a safe Memorial Day weekend!
Cherene Caraco (she/her) @ PRN
13:00
Hi everyone. Feel free to intro yourself in the chat
Howard Trachtman
13:18
info from national empowerment center: https://power2u.org/crisis-alternatives/
Howard Trachtman
13:58
https://power2u.org/resources-for-starting-a-peer-run-crisis-alternative-in-your-area/ https://power2u.org/evidence-for-peer-run-crisis-alternatives/
Cherene Caraco (she/her) @ PRN
14:03
Dean, I lived in the Adirondacks for many years :)
Felice Eliscu
15:26
Wow congratulations I love bazelon
Jonathan Bowen-Leopold
16:11
good helpful topics!
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
18:34
Just turned it on Anne.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
18:41
Thanks for the reminder!
Jim Gottstein
18:48
Jim Gottstein, author of The Zyprexa Papers. https://thezyprexapapers.com/
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
20:01
No need to apologize! We need to be accessible. Unfortunately Zoom makes you turn transcription on manually every time you start a webinar.
Francesca Simpson
20:09
Hi, Jim. You are mentioned in Daniel Bergner's book, "The Mind and the Moon." Wonderful book.
Jim Gottstein
24:16
Thanks Francesca. I hope and trust you are doing well.
Francesca Simpson
25:07
Very well, thanks. You?
Jim Gottstein
27:02
Way good, thanks. I am finding Cherene to be a superstar!
Francesca Simpson
27:49
Yes, she's wonderful.
Anne Turner
27:55
As an visual artist this is a super slide. I love it!!! Very relateable.
Laura Sorensen
30:21
yeaaaaaa
Francesca Simpson
30:22
Yes, please!
Juliet Dorris-Williams
30:24
thanks for that!!
Stephanie Jack
30:34
Thank you--the slide is awesome
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
31:35
Yeah I love it too. Very cool representation of the idea of mental health crises having an underlying context.
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
31:50
Sorry for being late. Love Cherene's work, and great to be hear. Hi from Salem OR!!
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
32:05
here :-)
Rebecca Nichol
32:31
Scapegoating
Juliet Dorris-Williams
32:34
If anyone wants to support the creator, there is a way to pay for a digital download. at her website
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
32:46
Yes Rebecca.
Cheri Bragg
32:47
It all atems from neoliberalism.
Stan Rossowski
32:49
Greetings, colleagues and cousins. Francesca, wonderful book, and Jim, wonderful human:-) Jim, agree w/you, Cherene is pretty amazing, depth of knowledge AND great communication skills.
Laura Sorensen
32:50
I love it
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
32:53
Yay Sera!!
Laura Sorensen
33:02
Amazon
Francesca Simpson
33:08
Just bought this book yesterday.
Cheri Bragg
33:10
*stems
Stan Rossowski
33:12
The artist's website: https://alyseruriani.com/
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
33:42
The bible. We are using it in Oregon with our state folks as a reference manual as we begin opening four Peer respites this year.
Judith Shalitt
33:52
Yes, good, what is the creator’s website, please?
Juliet Dorris-Williams
34:10
Thanks Stan!
Anne Turner
34:10
Unless there was a copyright by the person who originally developed that image it would be available for anyone to use it. Just a sidenote from an artist who knows about these things.
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
34:18
Wildflower Alliance is the name, and can get URL there.
Maria Kavouras
34:41
we have some videos on YouTube now from people usa about rose house, as well as stabilization center
Cheri Bragg
34:55
Thanks Anne! It makes great FB wallpaper.
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
35:27
Here 'tis: https://wildfloweralliance.org/
Cheri Bragg
37:24
https://wildfloweralliance.org/peer-respite-handbook/
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
37:48
That coercive choice you just mentioned, Cherene, is one more example of how our alternatives can get sucked into the coercive medical model system.
Summer Starr
37:55
More manuals: https://www.peerrespite.com/manuals
Stan Rossowski
38:59
and... check us out at https://www.alternatives-conference.org/peerrespitesoteriasummit#. the Summit is over, recordings, materials and resources are on this website. Consider adding your name and working with us as we promote and support peer respite and Soteria efforts internationally.
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
39:20
Hi Stan!
hilary carson
39:25
where does this fall in a mental health continuum of care? prevention? outpatient? crisis residential? trying to figure out how we would fund this
Maria Kavouras
39:51
https://vimeo.com/554071034
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
41:05
Here, Hillary, we are trying to keep respites out of the concept of a continuum of care. That concept itself gives med model folks an unrealistic view of how they operate. The are available beyond a continuum of care definition.
Stan Rossowski
42:24
Hello, Jacek. Good response to Hillary, agree absolutely.
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
42:47
Hillary, we are wading through a series of meetings to develop a way for the state to license the houses, and they need a unique structure.
Jim Gottstein
45:48
The Summit is putting together a continuing program to help people with starting and sustaining peer respites and Soteria Houses. This will include mentoring or technical assistance, advocacy materials (this presentation will be mined for that), videos, networking, etc. You can sign up for our e-mail list at http://psychiatrized.org/docs/SummitSignupForm.htm We haven't typically sent a lot of e-mails out so we won't fill your mailbox.
Stephanie Jack
46:27
One of the ways I describe our respite is that we support recovery and mental health wellness all along a person's recovery pathway--whether they are currently experiencing distress or 'crisis'; recently experienced hospitalization, etc.
hilary carson
46:52
thank you!
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
47:40
Absolutely Stephanie
Howard Trachtman
47:44
great presentation greets from Massachusetts related info @ www.warmline.org
ptery lieght
48:20
Jim, am I already on this email?
hilary carson
48:21
JIm I tried to click the link but unsuccessful
Stan Rossowski
49:00
Hilary, try it in Chrome or Edge.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
49:24
You might also try copying and pasting the URL instead of clicking it
Howard Trachtman
49:47
www.power2u.org
Jim Gottstein
50:38
I believe so Ptery, but I have to check with your e-mail address. I suspect you found out about this series because we sent it out to the Summit e-mail list.
Jim Gottstein
51:04
My e-mail address is jim.gottstein@psychrights.org
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
51:33
In the development of our respites using state funding, our state is to-date being quite cooperative meeting with us weekly to look at new licensing regulations and developing supportive administrative rules with support running the respites according to Recovery principles and similar to Wildflower's charter.
ptery lieght
51:36
Yes, it is not our place to name others!
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
54:08
Hi Howard!
Natalie Unwin
54:48
111 shk trpy-hlp pls
Summer Starr
55:48
In terms of staffing - how do you ensure folks working there are well trained and well compensated, don't burn out, are able to stay working there in the long term?
eileen smith
56:26
Is there anything like peer respite in Western Canada that anyone knows of?
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
56:37
Ensure? :-) Good question. Perennial and pervasive problem.
Francesca Simpson
56:54
Eileen, not that I know of (I'm in BC).
Maria Kavouras
57:21
I am not sure if there is but I was on the panel for a conference in Canada and they wanted to look into getting something similar to respites.
eileen smith
58:00
Thanks Francesca. I didnt think so. It is so desperately needed.
eileen smith
58:38
We need this in Canada.
eileen smith
59:16
I,m in Ladner B.C.Francesca.
Francesca Simpson
59:38
See Spring Mental Wellness Coalition is working on it. We're in Victoria. Nice to meet you, Eileen.
ptery lieght
01:01:22
Sustainability is a vital question.. How do we create systems that are regenerative, rather than just rescuing… To me, adding earth into the process and releasing stress into the earth and plants, where they handle stuff just fine. Neighbors are crucial! In houseless organizing through Sharewheel in Seattle, we did land scouting, and then in that community held speaker panels to meet the questions, fear and aggression, and our human presence really shifted directly how people felt about houseless folks, what was for them previously rumor.
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:02:01
Right on the money ptery
Francesca Simpson
01:04:44
Have to leave now. Thank you, everybody! You are all amazing. See you next week.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:04:56
Thanks for being here!
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:05:32
Second Story in California had to shut down because a number of the practical factors converged to alter their funder's commitment to them.
Stan Rossowski
01:06:16
In Winnipeg, we have Seneca House: https://sarariel.ca/our-services/seneca-respite-services/
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:06:18
What were the practical factors Jacek? Just curious.
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:07:01
Neighbor discontent; community lack of buy-in; the issues ptery is identifying and alluding to.
Stan Rossowski
01:08:03
So sad to hear that about Second Story. It was one of our models for success.
ptery lieght
01:09:47
Disconnect in general. Im trained as an embodied practitioner, and so many people don’t really know what is going on in their bodies. The disconnect to Earth is mirrored in many’s disconnect with their bodies. And is the source of so much disease physically, emotionally and mentally. And spirituality is the best healing process, and that’s the thing, if we measure mental wellness by how people all, and most folks are full of distractions from their environment because of their ability to pay for them.
ptery lieght
01:10:03
YES< pollination!!
Stan Rossowski
01:11:24
WOW!
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:11:50
Jeremy/all: story about Second Story closing https://www.goodtimes.sc/second-story-closure-worries-mental-health-advocates/
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:12:29
👍
Andrew Pegram
01:16:05
Ptery which training did you do? Am curious.
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:17:02
This is a great presentation and chat discussion. Peggy's 8 Dimensions of Wellness is a great wellness focus around which to create wellness, WRAP plans, etc.
Stephanie Jack
01:17:05
Did I hear that you utilized trauma wheel colors?
Anne Turner
01:17:48
These pictures are so beautiful and the people who get to use these lovely locations are so lucky to be able to get into such a supportive atmosphere. Love it. So very hopeful that a respite program can be put into place through See Spring Mental Wellness Coalition in Victoria, B.C. Canada. We are working on it.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:20:49
www.peerrespite.com/research
ptery lieght
01:20:55
Presencing Institute at MIT, talks about the journey from Ego System to Ecosystem is a necessary journey right now… How we are with each other if fraught by very dark origin stories…. We come out of the earth. All life need dignity and respect. https://youtu.be/kwzkLNFBm48
Rebecca Nichol
01:22:44
Thank you, what a great project! It's great that you are so well supported by local funding. State funding is often a precursor for state control!
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:22:48
Laysha Ostrow continues to create research related to Recovery and Peer Respites, and operates the Live And Learn website. We own much thanks to folks like her, Cherene, Sera Davidow and others on this conversation for the momentum these alternatives have developed.. Thank you to everyone.
ptery lieght
01:24:17
I have not been able to find safe shelter for myself as a transman, so I was part of organizing on the streets, and living within a peer space and find a safer, though not completely safe place, but I had a locked door, I had a voice, I had ears too, and I learned a lot from all the other people who were living with me, and saw them gain stability, and relationships…
ptery lieght
01:24:45
Shelters don’t do that, they recreate the systems that caused the harm…
Stan Rossowski
01:24:50
Interesting that research on peer run crisis respites focuses on reduced costs vs. hospital stays. Soteria research demonstrates success in minimizing psycho pharmaceutical use and successful long term outcomes vs. hospital stays.
Mia Mantri
01:24:56
That's really great to know. I really dislike the zero tolerance signs and policies like that.
Summer Starr
01:27:10
What about youth? Are there specific ways that you work with youth or are these programs primarily adult-focused?
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:28:20
There have been few researchers with the ability to get studies funded, and I know that Laysha's motives have been to get data developed which would be understood by mental health and payor officials to persuade them to fund respites. I believe there have also been a couple of qualitative studies to get more meaningful human data, but the funding for such studies is still slim.
Stan Rossowski
01:28:22
Charles Fort: You can march ten horses down Main Street but if a man has never seen a horse he won't know what he's looking at. :-)
Mia Mantri
01:30:34
I kept my suicidal thoughts to myself to save my life because I feared being sectioned would result in me attempting suicide after release. Keeping my suicidal thoughts to myself did increase my risk of suicide but it was the lesser evil.
Louisa putnam
01:31:33
ptery,Could you kindly text me the Presencing institute utube to me at 505 501 4270? Thank you.Ego system to ecosystem. Yes!
hilary carson
01:31:47
how do you manage individuals who are using substances with a no eject no reject policy?
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:32:24
I have to go. Wonderful, wonderful. Typical excellence from Cherene, and thank you to Jeremy for hosting this. So privileged to be with everyone attending. Thank you.
Mia Mantri
01:33:27
If someone says it's too flexible, what if someone else needs that flexibility?
Rebecca Nichol
01:38:24
Thank you, great project and great presentation
Stan Rossowski
01:38:56
Thank you Cherene and Jeremy. Another great webinar. Looking forward to next week.
Jim Gottstein
01:39:10
Fabulous presentation!
Juliet Dorris-Williams
01:39:11
Great presentation!
Louisa putnam
01:39:13
❤️
Kathlene S
01:39:14
Thanks so much! learning lots!
ptery lieght
01:39:23
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=presencing+institute