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Chancellor's Monthly Meeting: FCS Presidents - Shared screen with speaker view
John Holdnak
28:20
FEFP has a true up against actual enrollment twice per year. Don’t think we want to go there.
Tonjua Williams
28:58
Thanks John.
Jim Henningsen
34:22
If it doesn't generate FTE i.e. corporate college. Statute says they are to run at 100% full cost recovery. Unless I missed something
John Holdnak
37:20
Carol Probstfeld spent a year working on a potential model that explored many of these issue. We might want to start there and build on it since the timeline is short. It did have some good thinking in it with representatives from lots of different schools and lots of different kinds of schools.
John Holdnak
37:43
And sorry for the chat, am in a doctor’s office waiting room.
Jim Henningsen
40:01
I'm happy to host everyone in Ocala
Madeline Pumariega (MDC)
40:38
The model that was worked on by Carol and the team, I understand was based on production of degrees. The Tiered Funding model was obviously not endorsed by the House and Senate since the language was put in proviso.
John Holdnak
45:12
Program mix as well, which is a big issue in terms of differences between us.
Dr. John Avendano
47:20
I would agree.... There's some real possibilities elsewhere.
John Holdnak
48:36
Using the same data sets in the old “funding distribution model” could be a good idea, but don’t reuse that model. It was designed for a different purpose. The breadth of what it used would likely be useful, but if it were being building from scratch we likely wouldn’t set it up the same way or weight things the same way.
Jim Henningsen
50:53
Is this new model to be used for allocating new money or all money?
Georgia Lorenz
50:57
Does the tiered model kind of address a "multiple model" idea? Those in your "tier" are most similar to your college.
Jim Henningsen
52:34
Reading the language it looks like its to allocate this year's new funding.
Madeline Pumariega (MDC)
53:00
John - you are right. When we updated the model - we did correct for some of the weighed factors... but also tried not to go into a model that is based on enrollment - so that the funding is stable to address fixed costs and not have the volatility of enrollment especially in what appears to be a strong economy for Florida.
John Holdnak
53:25
If any model we recommend, whatever it is, contemplates the redistribution of existing resources rather than a weighted distribution of new money to address equity issues, then we will (I strongly believe) forever doom ourselves to seldom ever getting new money. It will be too easy for the Legislature to grease the squeaky wheel using our existing grease, rather than giving us new grease!
Jeff Allbritten
54:23
To Jim's question, we need to look at all funding. I have served on this council for 10 years in July and we always get bogged down in protectionism, etc. It's time to address funding in a broad sense, including the special operational "Pixie Dust" allocations that some institutions are successful in negotiating with their delegation leaders.
John Holdnak
55:55
Any model has to include a component to address and hold harmless any college that has a catastrophic loss of enrollment due to a natural disaster.
John Holdnak
57:55
Still think we could give up our tuition range (which we haven’t been able to use in more than a decade) and have the Legislature set our tuition - like universities. Then the Legislature controls (as they really already do) both pieces of our funding - tuition and state funding.
Kathleen Plinske
01:00:53
A proposed principle: consider standard tuition for the system while committing to not requiring students to subsidize the inequities in current allocation of state funds.
Devin Stephenson
01:11:57
Welcome Heather!
Beardt
01:12:06
Dr. O'Farrell is indeed a great hire for DOE
Paul Broadie
01:12:27
Welcome Heather
Heather Bigard
01:12:27
Thank you! I look forward to working with all of you!
Dr. John Avendano
01:12:28
Welcome Heather!
Beardt
01:12:30
Welcome Heather