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Peer-Run Crisis Alternatives: Warm Lines, Respites, Wellness Centers, Community Response Teams, and PAD’s - Shared screen with speaker view
Cherene Caraco (she/her)
17:40
Hi Anne. I remember :)
Dean Clickner
28:23
Dean Clickner, Director, Warren Washington Rose House, People-USA, 100% Peer run. www.people-usa.org
Virginia Cuello
29:40
Will we have these recordings or slides?
Cara Chang
36:12
can you add the link in chat please
Jim Gottstein
38:05
I can't save or copy the chat.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
40:59
We will share the recording on our website and can email a PDF of the slides to anyone that would like a copy. Just send your request to me at cafetacenter@gmail.com
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
41:23
Here is that link to the FACIT https://store.samhsa.gov/shin/content/SMA11-4633CD-DVD/EvaluatingYourProgram-COSP.pdf
Virginia Cuello
44:43
It says page not found
Rachel Gearinger
45:15
I would love to have all of these links! we can't click the powerpoint
Francesca Simpson
45:17
What is 988?
Cara Chang
45:31
can you add the warmline link in chat
Katie Wagner
45:35
Yes if we could be emailed these links it would be wonderful
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
45:36
Sorry, SAMHSA changes web addresses sometimes.
Stan Rossowski
45:38
The FACIT link leads to a The requested page could not be found message.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
46:21
I will fix the link and send it out to everyone with the slides.
Amilia Jian Shen
46:32
Thank you
Cheryl Molyneaux
46:39
Thank you!
Travis Atkinson
46:47
Try this
Travis Atkinson
46:48
https://store.samhsa.gov/product/Consumer-Operated-Services-Evidence-Based-Practices-EBP-KIT/SMA11-4633
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
47:18
Zoom doesn't make it easy to search the web and share slides at the same time LOL
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
48:00
Yes, Noon ET / 9 AM PT.
Stan Rossowski
49:57
That's it, Jeremy. Thanks!
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
50:03
Since a lot of people are asking about the links, I will send out a PDF of the slides with clickable links to all attendees after today's webinar.
Irit Shimrat
51:52
This is brilliant. Thank you so much. I almost didn’t attend because I’m so stodgy and so sensitive to language that I often speak of being allergic to terms like “consumer,” “mental health,” “lived experience” and, indeed, “peer.” I’m so glad to hear all this and eager to share with others.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
52:55
That's wonderful to hear Irit!
Amilia Jian Shen
55:15
I just graduated Howie the Harp Advocacy Center's bootcamp training and am very new to the peer world. I'm trying to absorb every information I can. Thank you so much for this webinar, it's so informative.
Andrea Wagner
56:00
This is information I wish every legislator in California could hear right now. We have been trying so hard to show them alternatives to the awful proposal for CARE Court and to find a legislative partner to help get funding for these peer programs.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
56:03
That's great Amilia! Thanks for bein here today.
LaTarsha Michael
56:32
This question may have already been addressed.... But, will this PowerPoint be shared?
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
57:55
Yes, since a lot of people asked about the links I'm going to send the slides out to everyone with clickable links.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
58:06
The recording will be on our website tomorrow.
LaTarsha Michael
58:21
Sounds great! Thanks Jeremy!
Katie Wagner
58:27
Does anyone know of peer run spaces in New York State especially New York City?
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
58:52
Are you familiar with NYAPRS Katie?
Katie Wagner
58:55
I don’t know if I can learn enough in a few zoom sessions so I would love to immerse myself with a job
Katie Wagner
59:03
No, I’m not, will check it out
Katie Wagner
59:06
Thank you!
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
59:40
They are a well-established peer organization in NY. Definitely look them up.
Tina Minkowitz
01:01:20
Doesn’t NYAPRS stand for NY Assn of Psychosocial Rehab Svcs? News to me if they consider themselves a peer org though key personnel have been ppl w lived exp.
Katie Wagner
01:01:42
It looks great- but I’m talking about the respites and clubhouse orgs that I could possibly work at
Katie Wagner
01:02:02
Anyone know of anything in New York State? I know of Fountain House
Frederico Gouveia
01:02:25
Fountain House is great.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:02:46
Not sure what the acronym stands for, but they've been around a long time so the words in their name might not reflect what people prefer now.
Amilia Jian Shen
01:02:46
There's a clubhouse in long island city Citiview Connections Clubhouse
Katie Wagner
01:03:07
Very cool! Thank you. Any others? Respites etc? I want to really immerse myself
Dean Clickner
01:03:22
@Katie Wagner, People USA, people-usa.org
Jim Gottstein
01:03:42
Can we also get the chat?
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:04:40
Sure. Just email me at cafetacenter@gmail.com with your request.
Stan Rossowski
01:05:22
@Katie. Have a look at City Voices https://www.cityvoicesonline.org/ and their Peer Workers Support group at https://www.cityvoicesonline.org. You will meet other peer workers, maybe find connections to work, learning opportunities.
Katie Wagner
01:06:51
Fantastic, thank you all
Millie S
01:07:47
Hi Irit.
Amilia Jian Shen
01:07:55
@Katie. https://www.communityaccess.org has a job opportunity board
Virginia Cuello
01:08:10
How de we get in contact with Cherene?
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:08:38
Cherene's email will be on the final slide
Francesca Simpson
01:08:39
In BC, the Representative Agreement Act specfically excludes PADs.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:09:08
Wow, that seems problematic.
Francesca Simpson
01:10:02
Sorry, it's the Representation Agreement Act.
Stan Rossowski
01:12:00
@Tina. You are correct. However, ED Harvey and all the staff I know wear their lived experience on their sleeve and they support and encourage peer support and principles. They are a great resource. Worth it just to be on their mailing list to keep an ear to the ground and hear what's going on today. Focused on New York but much national information there as well. https://www.nyaprs.org/
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:12:47
Completely agree Stan.
Kathy Laws
01:13:39
Here is the link to the Pennsylvania state specific Mental Health Advanced Directive: https://www.dhs.pa.gov/docs/For-Providers/Documents/Behavioral%20Health%20Services/Instructions%20%20Forms%20-%20English.pdf
Jim Gottstein
01:14:52
Do you really find attorneys who will take advance directive cases?
sam plover
01:15:03
@ Irit. I just got here Grrr
Kathy Laws
01:15:08
Note the areas which require signatures and witnesses which make this legal in PA. Theoretically, you can use your own form as long as you have these.
Irit Shimrat
01:15:10
Does anyone have an example of a PAD ever having prevented the use of drugs, force, or anything else?
Jim Gottstein
01:15:30
I have to leave for something else. Great presentation Cherene!
Jim Gottstein
01:15:42
My e-mail address is jim.gottstein@psychrights.org
Andrea Wagner
01:17:17
From what I have seen in my own experience in California, PADs are collected and disappear, never to be looked at again
Irit Shimrat
01:17:30
oh shit, sam, sorry i forgot to remind you!!!!!!
sam plover
01:18:00
I'm just SO bad at remembering time change
Myrna Dukes
01:18:14
thanks you
Irit Shimrat
01:18:24
never mind! video, slides and even chat will be available for later perusal.
sam plover
01:18:29
yes
Sean Freeman
01:19:12
I'm from Canada, where can I find more info on some of these topics and my rights
Cheryl Molyneaux
01:19:28
We run a Peer Warmline here in Florida. Looking forward to joining next week.
Francesca Simpson
01:20:02
Sean, issues vary by province. If you're in BC, maybe I can help.
Amilia Jian Shen
01:20:18
Cannot wait to hear more about peer respites!
Irit Shimrat
01:20:22
Sean, where in Canada are you?
Sean Freeman
01:20:26
I'm from Manitoba
Sean Freeman
01:20:34
Winnipeg
Stan Rossowski
01:20:53
Sean, I have some info on this, actually.
sam plover
01:20:58
I am guessing that most PADs would be ignored because after all, I might not have been in my right mind when writing it
Irit Shimrat
01:22:45
https://www.madinamerica.com/2022/01/roll-988-threatens-anonymity-crisis-hotlines/
Tina Minkowitz
01:22:52
On PADs my preference is to not give credence to mh notions about drugs as treatment or to address personal crisis as something I’d want to discuss in legal document or make available to health providers or psychiatric personnel. For that reason I would include directives to not administer ECT or neuroleptics under any circumstances for any reason and to not administer any psychoactive drugs without my affirmative consent except narcotics for pain relief if I do not object, or any drugs for behavioral reasons.
Tina Minkowitz
01:23:24
I would include that in a regular AD form.
sam plover
01:23:36
good plan Tina
Irit Shimrat
01:23:49
https://slate.com/technology/2022/04/crisis-lifelines-surveillance-geolocation-algorithms.html
sam plover
01:24:07
Would someone take that request to a lawyer?
sam plover
01:24:26
I mean ORDER, not request
sam plover
01:25:45
I guess "demand" is the correct term.
Cara Chang
01:26:19
thank you I really appreciate this
Andrea Wagner
01:26:49
It would be great to see how many people and who are on the call. Would like to connect and talk with others on these topics.
Stan Rossowski
01:27:54
Hello Irit, Cesca, Kathy, Sean ... everyone else known or unknown to me. This is so great, Cherene. Love the way you've put this together. But it's intense, so much info all at once. Looking forward to the rest of the sessions. Peace and love from Treaty One Territory, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.
Tina Minkowitz
01:27:56
Which request @sam? On ADs you need to check what is the law in your state and whether there are lawyers to help with it.
Irit Shimrat
01:28:35
Howdy, Sean - and also Millie S!
Kathy Laws
01:29:04
PA does not require notarization
Sean Freeman
01:29:08
hello to all
Irit Shimrat
01:29:11
By Sean I meant Stan - easy typo. But, warm greetings to all.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:29:18
Stan, yes, this is a lot in one webinar. There will be more room to breathe and talk through things in the learning community meetings.
sam plover
01:29:28
The desires you mentioned, of including those desires/demands in regular AD's, could one or would one get a lawyer to draft it up.
sam plover
01:29:37
That was @ tina
Stan Rossowski
01:31:13
@Tina. Just getting into "Norms and Implementation of CRPD Article 12" :-) Thank you.
sam plover
01:31:45
I have a question. If suicide is not illegal, why is it reported to police or other authority. Yes I know liability, but logically if something is not illegal, one would not be liable since no crime com mitted
Stan Rossowski
01:33:45
I would not use 988 just for that very issue. There are other problems too. A good local warm line is who I'd call.
Tina Minkowitz
01:34:32
@sam you can put it into a form for general ADs if available in your state. But check with lawyer or paralegal in your state about wording and what is binding. I am a lawyer and trust my advice for myself but as I do intl law and don’t keep up with US law I wouldn’t advise others.
Tina Minkowitz
01:34:58
@stan enjoy your exploring
Rebecca Nichol
01:35:20
Thank you, a lot of useful information and clearly presented
sam plover
01:35:59
Well I'm in Canada
Tina Minkowitz
01:36:41
Check with lawyer or paralegal knowledgeable in this area, where you live.
sam plover
01:36:51
thanks Tina
Millie S
01:39:37
Hi Stan Rossowski. Irit. I’m on Vancouver Island, Nanaimo.
Francesca Simpson
01:39:47
Thank you, everybody!!!
Stan Rossowski
01:39:50
Anyone seeking further connection opportunities, you're invited to join us at the International Peer Respite/Soteria Summit. https://www.alternatives-conference.org/peerrespitesoteriasummit#. We did 25 hours of Zoom conference last October, all recorded on the site, and are organizing and working to promote and support these alternatives for people in distress.
Kathy Laws
01:40:02
Thank you for a great presentation!
Stan Rossowski
01:40:24
Thank you, Jeremy and Cherene. Great ideas and great peresentation❤️
LaTarsha Michael
01:40:31
Great information and presentation Cherene!!
Irit Shimrat
01:40:33
Stan, weren’t you in the prairies recently?
Fiona Walsh
01:40:46
Thank you Jeremy, Cherene and all
Stan Rossowski
01:40:50
Manitoba, yes
Irit Shimrat
01:41:01
congrats on the move, if that’s what this is
Amilia Jian Shen
01:41:03
Thank you so much for today's presentation!
sam plover
01:41:15
thank you for the zoom
Sean Freeman
01:41:20
thank you