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Peer-Run Crisis Alternatives: Warm Lines, Respites, Wellness Centers, Community Response Teams, and PAD’s - Shared screen with speaker view
Fiona Walsh
13:26
Ireland
Cherene Caraco (she/her)
13:27
Juliet :)
Jonathan Bowen-Leopold
19:17
hi! Boston area
Sarah Smith
21:50
HI. I'm Sarah from MindFreedom International
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
22:37
Welcome!
Anne Turner
25:31
Hi Anne from Nanaimo B.C. Canada. Missed you last week this series has been so meaningful. Nice to hear your enthusiastic voice Cherene.
Sarah Smith
25:47
I disagree with one point: pioneers of the CSX movement didn't try to 'minimize' the use of restraints, seclusion, and segregation. Those individuals tried to eliminate/prohibit them
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
26:48
That's true Sarah
Jonathan Bowen-Leopold
29:42
hi! Good free resources around Massachusetts: https://www.twitter.com/wehearhope
Keri Stanberry
35:01
YesI have been blackballed completelyIt’s all bad
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
35:51
Ugh, that's hard Keri.
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
35:59
I think both are important. We cannot abandon those working their asses off in the traditional system who inch along incorporating Recovery principles and Peer values to protect and support service users there.
Cheryl Molyneaux
37:09
yes
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
37:12
yes
Loran Harris
37:17
yes
John Ferrone
37:32
You can choose 200% in the zoom ratio and then move it around with your mouse
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
38:50
Peggy Swarbrick continues to put out a monthly support newsletter to supplement her 8 Dimensions of Wellness. They are full of helpful ideas for implementing wellness activities.
hilary carson
41:20
whats your average daily census?
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
41:38
This is a wonderful array of oppportunities!
yulia mikhailova
41:41
I agree with Jacek. We need both, and we need to create as wide alliances as possible. I share the values of the "radicals/abolitionists," but I can't help seeing how marginalized they are. So far, there has been no progress with abolishing the oppressive system - on the contrary, it is getting more and more oppressive.
yulia mikhailova
42:01
Let's care less about ideological purity and pursue a variety of strategies and do whatever it takes to achieve a change.
yulia mikhailova
42:24
How are you funded?
John Ferrone
42:28
Cherene... How does a person create and offer a class? When you explained that you've grown, is there a process that you've put in place to invite people to create an offering, and to coach them through to the point of posting and sharing?
Francesca Simpson
42:30
Amen, Yulia.
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
42:32
With you Yulia!
Anne Turner
42:37
Thank is so many great events that are available for anyone of any level of wellness.
Eamonn Flynn
42:46
What is the website
Cheryl Molyneaux
43:22
Is four agreements based on the book?
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
43:48
https://promiseresourcenetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/June-Calendar-update.pdf
Jonathan Bowen-Leopold
46:04
hi! I learned on another recent webinar about the help of an outdoors space, especially at peer run respites - nice green plants and seating - good respite sorts of help!
yulia mikhailova
46:20
Cherene, how is your program funded? It's so great that it's free and does not require insurance
Sarah Smith
46:43
Two questions, can I get your email Cherene and have you listed your online event in the online calendar called Peer Galaxy created by Laura Rose Misras?
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
48:33
I totally agree that the context of Recovery needs to exclude medical model orientations. We can interface, but the lines need to be clear.
Sarah Smith
48:37
Where I am sitting, taking hundreds of calls/emails every week from psych survivors all over the world, there is a demand for info around drugs but the requests usually fall under the category of psych drug withdrawal. Many folks want help withdrawing from inneffective or harmful drugs and the system is not supporting those requests
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
50:20
That stance and walking the talk is imperative.
Travis Atkinson
50:20
I love that about you and your org, Cherene!
Travis Atkinson
50:38
I hope more communities will follow suit in doing right by their people
Virginia Cuello
52:51
Wow, feeling empowered here.
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
53:34
And in traditional systems, these same lines need to be drawn to protect the Peer Specialists offering true trauma-informed and "learning together" healing.
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
55:49
Sharon, you may want to check out the recording of our Warm Lines session as it touched on the kind of remote peer support you're describing.
Sarah Smith
57:10
Yulia, you pont to the marginalization and lack of progress by abolishionists as a reason why this isn't a viable pathway, yet you say that things are getting worse. Yes, things are getting worse but one of the reasons for this is the lack of activism. Yesterday, our partners at ADAPT to bring attention to our Shield campaign for David Italiano, who was disappeared in the system due to an abusive guardianship, got arrested at the State Capital in Harrisburg, PA shouting 'I'd rather be in jail, than rotting in a nursing home!" Blind people, people in wheelchairs getting arrested. Think about that. This is how change happens. Activism, and the employment of people in the mental health system has drained our movement of activism. People rarely cut off the branch they are sitting on
John Ferrone
58:07
When you consider a peer's recovery journey, there are milestones (for lack fo better words), and I am curious to know how your organization meets peers at their various milestones in their journey, and introduce them to what you're providing?
Sarah Smith
58:07
I meant 'peers employed in the MH system'
yulia mikhailova
59:03
Thank you, Cherene
CAROLYN GREEN
59:41
This is very helpful
Francesca Simpson
01:01:02
Do you carry liability insurance?
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:01:19
Each path is unique, so not sure about common "milestones."
yulia mikhailova
01:02:00
Sarah, was there any media coverage of this protest and arrests? I want to share this info with whoever I can
sam plover
01:02:26
Agree Sarah
yulia mikhailova
01:03:24
Sarah, can you give a link to Peer Glaxy?
sam plover
01:03:40
yes exactly. people always use the worst scenarios to challenge any opposition to psych
Sarah Smith
01:03:46
It is on the Facebook page of PA Adapt. We tried to livestream it but it didn't work out. I will scour the local media outlets in PA to see if the local media got covered. I know that those at the PA Legislature is definitely aware of the issue today "The need for alternatives to guardianship"
Sarah Smith
01:04:05
I will also post videos on our website today which you can share.
Jim Gottstein
01:06:05
I have to run, but look forward to viewing the rest when it becomes available. You are amazing Cherene.
sam plover
01:06:14
bye jim
Mia Mantri
01:06:25
I've often been unable to have a conversation because people scared me into silence or they'd talk over me or shut me up. But when I come across people who give me space to speak without the fear of judgement I feel safe enough to speak.
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:07:43
Upcoming webinar: "Pathways to Person-Centered Decision-Making and Alternatives to Guardianship" https://mailchi.mp/hsri/june-webinars-and-resources-from-our-partners?e=94e5588438
yulia mikhailova
01:08:01
I have to leave, thank you for the wonderful event. This is so inspiring!
Francesca Simpson
01:08:17
Sorry, have to go now. Thank you, everybody!
Sarah Smith
01:08:47
https://www.peergalaxy.com/
Loran Harris
01:09:32
This is very inspirational, as I live in a super rural area. So, I am learning so much and will be watching this when the link is up. Thank you.
Juliet Dorris-Williams
01:10:34
I have to hop off for another meeting. I love hearing Cherene talk about her recovery center. This is saying something as I am also running PRO (peer recovery organization). We have to remember why we exist, and stay on our path. We are desperately needed. Thanks again, Cherene!
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:10:41
Yes, if you go to the article about this series, there are links to the recordings of each session. If you have trouble finding it email me at cafetacenter@gmail.com
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:13:30
I know we shared it previously in this series. It's housed on the SAMHSA website but I don't have the link handy
Cherene Caraco (she/her)
01:13:48
fidelity active common ingredients tool (FACIT)
Virginia Cuello
01:14:52
Great Questions Sara
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:15:02
IPS!!! Yay Shery Mead!
John Ferrone
01:20:46
Nebraska... 27 years : )
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:21:21
I put up the contact info slide for everyone asking about how to contact Cherene :)
Sarah Smith
01:22:56
The only way to get massive amounts of funding away from harmful programs redirected to helpful programs such as peer run services is through activism. We have to stop traffic and take back our power politically
Michele Koppinger
01:24:12
...murderers can be exonerated, literally; "mental illness" is a life sentence by mainstream "care" systems - in their treadmill, there is no recovery and being set free. That's their matrix & limited mindset, not peers'.
Sarah Smith
01:24:18
We need a Normandy Beach scale D-Day scale worldwide, non violent global revoution in the mental health system, not a program here and a program there
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:25:00
In Oregon, when Kevin Fitts and several of us testified at our legislature, when the bill to fund a Peer Respite was being heard, one of our rural legislators asked why only one. He wanted one for his area, so the committee wanted us to re-write the legislation to fund four. They were funded, and we are just now about to get the RFP's out.
Sally Reid
01:25:44
Sarah, I'm in Oregon and the Mother of a son who's been in and out of the hospital system and homeless again because he wouldn't take his meds and is no longer being supported. Can I get an email to connect with you? We've been in the crazy cycle for over 10 years and my son has lost hope.
Michele Koppinger
01:25:55
Good news Jacek. Thanks for sharing.
Sally Reid
01:27:32
Jacek, would love your contact information as well.
Sarah Smith
01:28:10
Sally, I think private chat is not enabled in this webinar. My email is sarah@mindfreedom.org. I'm sorry to hear about your son being on the streets, not getting support and losing hope. So many of the services provided by mental health providers actually have the effect of disempwering people, as opposed to empowerin them.
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:28:13
Our biggest challenge is now getting the support for ensuring that Recovery principles are allowed to be the foundation of all Peer Respite operations. So far, due to a cooperative official, we are not being blocked. We will see, though.
Jim Bloss
01:28:31
How did you handle the questions from the medical model-based folks about how you were going to handle the medication adherence mandate associated with the current mainline approach to behavioral healthcare?
Michele Koppinger
01:29:07
Ha! How ironic that insurance considers you high risk when a much suppressed fact is doctors have highest suicide rate than any segment of society. Imagine that. The people "treating" you may be worse off. Yes, let's flip this script!
Sally Reid
01:29:14
Thank you Sarah.
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:29:59
Sally. hja4@msn.com
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:30:04
Agreed Michele. It's a place where you get punished for disclosing and rewarded for withholding.
Michele Koppinger
01:30:18
☝️
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:34:57
Great consolidation of our comments and questions, Jeremy! :-)
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:35:19
I tried!
Michele Koppinger
01:35:19
Sometimes the pendulum has to go to the extreme to shift things to the middle (balance).
Loran Harris
01:36:03
Sometimes you have to do both... work from the inside, and also ...blow some of them up and start over. I say both.
Michele Koppinger
01:36:30
* to nudge people out their complancy, (continued).
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:36:59
I think your points are very consistent with what Cherene is now describing too, Loran.
Loran Harris
01:37:14
yes she is doing a good job
Loran Harris
01:38:02
glad to be here! Thanks
Sarah Smith
01:38:04
MIchelle is right insofar as its important to get the middle (status quo) to shift. The status quo right now in the mental health system is ABOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE. If being extreme gets the fat middle status quo system to shift then I will be extreme
Eamonn Flynn
01:38:06
Thanks everyone ,inspirational talk and presentation.. Nothing like this in the UK. many thanks Eamonn
Jeremy - CAFE TAC
01:38:31
Cheers, Eamonn
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:38:45
Just like the job of a Peer Specialist on a "treatment team." They often are helping the "patient" object to and resist what the team wants for the "patient."
Sarah Smith
01:39:36
Great program. Thanks for presenting!
Loran Harris
01:40:16
Eye opener, Thank you so very much!
Sarah Smith
01:40:22
http://peervoicenc.com/?
CAROLYN GREEN
01:40:37
Thank you!! This was excellent!!
Jacek (Jack) Haciak
01:40:48
Wonderful wonderful!! Thank you!
Mary Dahl
01:41:25
Learning so much, Thank you Jeremy and Cherene and all!
Keri Stanberry
01:41:25
Want to have conversationHow do I talk to anyone of you?
Rebecca Nichol
01:41:49
Thank you, Cherene
Cherene Caraco (she/her)
01:42:00
ccaraco@promiseresourcenetwork.org
Rebecca Nichol
01:42:02
Thank you, Jeremy
Fiona Walsh
01:42:20
thank you to Cherene, Jeremy and all
sam plover
01:42:21
thanks so much Jeremy and cherene
Latishia Crouche
01:42:28
thank you