Ireland

Juliet :)

hi! Boston area

HI. I'm Sarah from MindFreedom International

Welcome!

Hi Anne from Nanaimo B.C. Canada. Missed you last week this series has been so meaningful. Nice to hear your enthusiastic voice Cherene.

I disagree with one point: pioneers of the CSX movement didn't try to 'minimize' the use of restraints, seclusion, and segregation. Those individuals tried to eliminate/prohibit them

That's true Sarah

hi! Good free resources around Massachusetts: https://www.twitter.com/wehearhope

YesI have been blackballed completelyIt’s all bad

Ugh, that's hard Keri.

I think both are important. We cannot abandon those working their asses off in the traditional system who inch along incorporating Recovery principles and Peer values to protect and support service users there.

yes

yes

yes

You can choose 200% in the zoom ratio and then move it around with your mouse

Peggy Swarbrick continues to put out a monthly support newsletter to supplement her 8 Dimensions of Wellness. They are full of helpful ideas for implementing wellness activities.

whats your average daily census?

This is a wonderful array of oppportunities!

I agree with Jacek. We need both, and we need to create as wide alliances as possible. I share the values of the "radicals/abolitionists," but I can't help seeing how marginalized they are. So far, there has been no progress with abolishing the oppressive system - on the contrary, it is getting more and more oppressive.

Let's care less about ideological purity and pursue a variety of strategies and do whatever it takes to achieve a change.

How are you funded?

Cherene... How does a person create and offer a class? When you explained that you've grown, is there a process that you've put in place to invite people to create an offering, and to coach them through to the point of posting and sharing?

Amen, Yulia.

With you Yulia!

Thank is so many great events that are available for anyone of any level of wellness.

What is the website

Is four agreements based on the book?

https://promiseresourcenetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/June-Calendar-update.pdf

hi! I learned on another recent webinar about the help of an outdoors space, especially at peer run respites - nice green plants and seating - good respite sorts of help!

Cherene, how is your program funded? It's so great that it's free and does not require insurance

Two questions, can I get your email Cherene and have you listed your online event in the online calendar called Peer Galaxy created by Laura Rose Misras?

I totally agree that the context of Recovery needs to exclude medical model orientations. We can interface, but the lines need to be clear.

Where I am sitting, taking hundreds of calls/emails every week from psych survivors all over the world, there is a demand for info around drugs but the requests usually fall under the category of psych drug withdrawal. Many folks want help withdrawing from inneffective or harmful drugs and the system is not supporting those requests

That stance and walking the talk is imperative.

I love that about you and your org, Cherene!

I hope more communities will follow suit in doing right by their people

Wow, feeling empowered here.

And in traditional systems, these same lines need to be drawn to protect the Peer Specialists offering true trauma-informed and "learning together" healing.

Sharon, you may want to check out the recording of our Warm Lines session as it touched on the kind of remote peer support you're describing.

Yulia, you pont to the marginalization and lack of progress by abolishionists as a reason why this isn't a viable pathway, yet you say that things are getting worse. Yes, things are getting worse but one of the reasons for this is the lack of activism. Yesterday, our partners at ADAPT to bring attention to our Shield campaign for David Italiano, who was disappeared in the system due to an abusive guardianship, got arrested at the State Capital in Harrisburg, PA shouting 'I'd rather be in jail, than rotting in a nursing home!" Blind people, people in wheelchairs getting arrested. Think about that. This is how change happens. Activism, and the employment of people in the mental health system has drained our movement of activism. People rarely cut off the branch they are sitting on

When you consider a peer's recovery journey, there are milestones (for lack fo better words), and I am curious to know how your organization meets peers at their various milestones in their journey, and introduce them to what you're providing?

I meant 'peers employed in the MH system'

Thank you, Cherene

This is very helpful

Do you carry liability insurance?

Each path is unique, so not sure about common "milestones."

Sarah, was there any media coverage of this protest and arrests? I want to share this info with whoever I can

Agree Sarah

Sarah, can you give a link to Peer Glaxy?

yes exactly. people always use the worst scenarios to challenge any opposition to psych

It is on the Facebook page of PA Adapt. We tried to livestream it but it didn't work out. I will scour the local media outlets in PA to see if the local media got covered. I know that those at the PA Legislature is definitely aware of the issue today "The need for alternatives to guardianship"

I will also post videos on our website today which you can share.

I have to run, but look forward to viewing the rest when it becomes available. You are amazing Cherene.

bye jim

I've often been unable to have a conversation because people scared me into silence or they'd talk over me or shut me up. But when I come across people who give me space to speak without the fear of judgement I feel safe enough to speak.

Upcoming webinar: "Pathways to Person-Centered Decision-Making and Alternatives to Guardianship" https://mailchi.mp/hsri/june-webinars-and-resources-from-our-partners?e=94e5588438

I have to leave, thank you for the wonderful event. This is so inspiring!

Sorry, have to go now. Thank you, everybody!

https://www.peergalaxy.com/

This is very inspirational, as I live in a super rural area. So, I am learning so much and will be watching this when the link is up. Thank you.

I have to hop off for another meeting. I love hearing Cherene talk about her recovery center. This is saying something as I am also running PRO (peer recovery organization). We have to remember why we exist, and stay on our path. We are desperately needed. Thanks again, Cherene!

Yes, if you go to the article about this series, there are links to the recordings of each session. If you have trouble finding it email me at cafetacenter@gmail.com

I know we shared it previously in this series. It's housed on the SAMHSA website but I don't have the link handy

fidelity active common ingredients tool (FACIT)

Great Questions Sara

IPS!!! Yay Shery Mead!

Nebraska... 27 years : )

I put up the contact info slide for everyone asking about how to contact Cherene :)

The only way to get massive amounts of funding away from harmful programs redirected to helpful programs such as peer run services is through activism. We have to stop traffic and take back our power politically

...murderers can be exonerated, literally; "mental illness" is a life sentence by mainstream "care" systems - in their treadmill, there is no recovery and being set free. That's their matrix & limited mindset, not peers'.

We need a Normandy Beach scale D-Day scale worldwide, non violent global revoution in the mental health system, not a program here and a program there

In Oregon, when Kevin Fitts and several of us testified at our legislature, when the bill to fund a Peer Respite was being heard, one of our rural legislators asked why only one. He wanted one for his area, so the committee wanted us to re-write the legislation to fund four. They were funded, and we are just now about to get the RFP's out.

Sarah, I'm in Oregon and the Mother of a son who's been in and out of the hospital system and homeless again because he wouldn't take his meds and is no longer being supported. Can I get an email to connect with you? We've been in the crazy cycle for over 10 years and my son has lost hope.

Good news Jacek. Thanks for sharing.

Jacek, would love your contact information as well.

Sally, I think private chat is not enabled in this webinar. My email is sarah@mindfreedom.org. I'm sorry to hear about your son being on the streets, not getting support and losing hope. So many of the services provided by mental health providers actually have the effect of disempwering people, as opposed to empowerin them.

Our biggest challenge is now getting the support for ensuring that Recovery principles are allowed to be the foundation of all Peer Respite operations. So far, due to a cooperative official, we are not being blocked. We will see, though.

How did you handle the questions from the medical model-based folks about how you were going to handle the medication adherence mandate associated with the current mainline approach to behavioral healthcare?

Ha! How ironic that insurance considers you high risk when a much suppressed fact is doctors have highest suicide rate than any segment of society. Imagine that. The people "treating" you may be worse off. Yes, let's flip this script!

Thank you Sarah.

Sally. hja4@msn.com

Agreed Michele. It's a place where you get punished for disclosing and rewarded for withholding.

☝️

Great consolidation of our comments and questions, Jeremy! :-)

I tried!

Sometimes the pendulum has to go to the extreme to shift things to the middle (balance).

Sometimes you have to do both... work from the inside, and also ...blow some of them up and start over. I say both.

* to nudge people out their complancy, (continued).

I think your points are very consistent with what Cherene is now describing too, Loran.

yes she is doing a good job

glad to be here! Thanks

MIchelle is right insofar as its important to get the middle (status quo) to shift. The status quo right now in the mental health system is ABOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE. If being extreme gets the fat middle status quo system to shift then I will be extreme

Thanks everyone ,inspirational talk and presentation.. Nothing like this in the UK. many thanks Eamonn

Cheers, Eamonn

Just like the job of a Peer Specialist on a "treatment team." They often are helping the "patient" object to and resist what the team wants for the "patient."

Great program. Thanks for presenting!

Eye opener, Thank you so very much!

http://peervoicenc.com/?

Thank you!! This was excellent!!

Wonderful wonderful!! Thank you!

Learning so much, Thank you Jeremy and Cherene and all!

Want to have conversationHow do I talk to anyone of you?

Thank you, Cherene

ccaraco@promiseresourcenetwork.org

Thank you, Jeremy

thank you to Cherene, Jeremy and all

thanks so much Jeremy and cherene

thank you