
01:29:22
AMAZING music. Thank you

01:29:44
Huy ch q'u Si'em for starting us off in a good way

01:30:25
ƛekoo ƛekoo for the prayer, song, and good energy this morning-Leisa Hassall Tseshaht

01:30:33
Good morning all, Hesquiaht lady representing Nuu-chah-nulth Tribal Council from unceded Tseshaht and Hupacasath territories :)

01:31:39
good morning from Snuneymuxw First Nation territory. Am the Emergency Planning Coordinator at Nuu-chah-nulth Tribal Council. My thanks for the prayer and good words! Looking forward to learning lots during this forum.

01:33:38
Greetings from the Taku River Tlingit First Nation, way up here in Atlin

01:37:33
Good morning from Tk'emlups te Secwepemc territory. Thank you Elder for the beautiful opening and Dan for holding space for all of us today. So grateful to be here with everyone.

01:38:33
Chacholoine Hotie , Natasha Usheye Good morning my name is Natasha , I am the EMC for Iskut First Nation in Tahltan Territory

01:40:18
Good morning everyone from Tk'emlups te Secwepemc territory. I represent Skeetchestn Natural Resources.

01:41:51
Hawa'a from Old Massett Village Council Emergency Services Department Haida Territory

01:41:52
Good morning everyone. My name is Mary and I am honoured to join you today from the unceded territory of the Lekwungen people, comprised of the Songhees and Esquimalt First Nations.

01:42:10
good morning everyone....thank you elder Baker for your beautiful song and prayer. Please note that Christiane Fox's title is Deputy Minister, Indigenous Services Canada

01:43:38
Good Morning, very happy to be here. Joining you from the traditional territory of the Ta'an Kwach'an, and the Kwanlin Dün First Nations in the Yukon

01:45:10
To all participants...feel free to rename yourself to include your Title_Names_FN/Organization

01:45:13
Bilhaa dm ne'ex calling in from the Ts'msyen Laxyuup territory.Char Etzerza calling in from Prince Rupert.

01:45:23
Good morning everyone from Wuikinuxv TerritoryI am the EMD for the Wuikinuxv Nation on the central coast of BC.

01:45:43
I'll be back shortly

01:47:00
good morning everyone, grateful to be calling in from the unceded traditional territory of the Lheidli T'enneh.

01:49:41
sincere apologies, I am currently on an emergency local EOC call. hoping to be able to come back tot his call shortly.

01:50:58
She:kon good morning! Michelle Jacobs, Mohawks of Akwesasne, EPC calling in for the Upper Similkameen Indian Band. Thank you for hosting this wonderful forum!

01:51:50
Tansi, Ekosi for the Morning Opening Prayer and Song. I am with Peguis First Nation in Manitoba, Honoured to be here on the Forum and be representing my Community

01:52:03
Thank you for invitation everyone. Have a productive meeting. Take care.

02:01:20
Holding my hands up to Kukpi7 Judy Wilson for your message. Mussi cho for your support of emergency management in our communities. Thank you Dan George for holding space for this important dialogue. I am joining you from Neskonlith Indian Band territory.

02:15:42
Amazing video that shows the great work that FNESS does...thank you Wayne!

02:20:02
My apologies I have been doubled booked this morning at 10 am for another Zoom meeting but will be back in an hour's time.

02:26:13
Covid in community will also have reason to activate EOC we are still in a pandemic

02:26:25
sorry I double booked myself will be back tomorrow

02:27:43
what was the word he used, hydrometric?

02:29:51
Crisis and Recovery, it has been continuous, training for Guardians, Health Care and Fire fighting with emergency services, full time Recovery and Emergency funding, year round, with winter around the corner, there will be avalanches, guaranteed, in the Fraser canyon.

02:43:40
give him another minute.

02:44:24
Yes. Let him finish

02:44:39
MUSSI CHO for your truth and candour Chief Pat Michell!!!

02:45:04
BRAVO!

02:45:55
snachalya

02:46:16
THANK YOU CHIEF MICHELL FOR YOUR COMPELLING SPEECH

02:46:21
thank you for those words, I needed to hear that

02:46:41
THANK YOU!!!You will never speak loud enough!

02:46:44
Meduh (thank you) for that presentation

02:46:46
Thank you Chief Michell for your words!

02:47:05
The frustration is real across all our nations thank you for speaking out! Chief Patrick Michell! ! heart goes out to you and membership and community. its hard not to keep the emotion in tole when we hold/ in these positions hands up to you

02:47:10
Thank you Chief!

02:47:11
Thank you Chief Michell

02:48:42
Thank You Kukpi Patrick, Great Words, I hope those agencies listen

02:59:47
Lytton Strong. Jason

02:59:59
Hi all - thanks for listening. For me - my greatest stress, anxiety and anger flows from "$". I'm still working so I am able to pay bills and I was debt free since age 40. Since June 30, 2021 I have now expensed so much not only for my family but also the other evacuees and borrowed so much - at last count - I'm 170K in debt and thats before my family starts cleaning the house and land and rebuilding our 6 bedroom home and its two bathrooms and the porch on the back and the mudroom on the front - which is about 750K. That means my legacy to my children now is now a potentially a million in debt - not assets. For on reserve - I will need a federal guarantee to get a mortgage and for the off reserve - they will need a provincial guarantee - there can be no resilient rebuild without.

03:02:27
Thank you Councillor Robertson

03:02:49
Thank you.Counsellor Robertson

03:03:35
Mussi cho Councillor Robertson. I hold my hands up to you and your community.

03:03:47
no need for sorry Councilor Jason Roberson, this is real life situation, Thank you for sharing your experience HANDS UP TO YOU will smudge you, membership and community. for all that have been effected

03:03:56
Haaw'a Councillor Jason Robertson for sharing

03:04:18
Thank you Jason

03:05:19
our prayers are with you Jason Robertson, and the Nations..

03:06:29
Thank you for sharing Jason.

03:06:40
tkelt Kukpi7 sending prayer to all those still impacted by Crisis.

03:07:10
Creator lift our heavy hearts

03:11:14
Thank you everyone, aside from losing our lively hood. The love and support shown and given is greatly appreciated. Gratitude is given to those ones who put their lives on the line to ensure communities in our nation remained safe. Thank you for the thoughts and prayers.

03:19:25
I have another meeting I will be back after lunch. Thank you Chief Patrick Michell and Councillor Jason Robertson for sharing.

03:20:19
My apologies I have been doubled booked this morning at 11 am for another Zoom meeting but will be back in an hour's time.

03:22:25
I have to go to our office brb

03:43:39
Chief Michell, Can you please share with us your recommendations on how to start building resilient homes and buildings and safety-building our communities.

03:46:00
Chief Byron Louis:

03:47:53
in our community even though we're implementing and moving forward with a FireSmart community this will take time and funding. if we are not FireSmart emergency agencies will not even look at the home. residents don't have funding to make the drastic changes to their home in order to become FireSmart. build back better need to make the at the upper levels with CMHC

03:51:34
question for chief Byron Louis. how is OKIB planning to implement prescribed burns to protect the community

03:52:01
Chief Byron Louis:You mentioned communications being a big problem this year for you and those around you. After the summer that you experienced, do you have any suggestions or tips on how to improve communications prior too, during, or after an emergency?

03:53:00
A question for each panel presenter. Upon personal reflection on your lived experience in helping the people, what (if anything) would you have done differently?

03:55:46
Councillor Jason Robertson: Would you support First Nations Leadership encouraging EMBC to alter the processes regarding how an activated First Nation EOC reaches out with resource requests or EAF’s, in order to alleviate their workload and to access other trained EPC’s in other First Nations. In addition to create a strategy to allow other First Nation EPC’s to assist another First Nation remotely (online) as needed.

03:56:50
I recall in previous discussions that the issue of compensation for farmers/ranches was a concern in that resourcing was made available to non-indigenous farmers/ranchers and wondering if anything has changed that has provided the necessary supports to our first nation farmers/ranchers?

03:57:51
Communications - we got up a temporary cell tower on wheels up and running (known as COW) and will be replacing with a permanent cell tower and battery storage ($875K) in next 6 months so that if/when Fraser canyon towers go down - we wont lose signal (cell and wifi).

03:58:06
agree 100% regarding all the food security situation

03:58:29
How have each communities evacuees been impacted by hotel shortages due to hotels prioritizing tourism over local evacuees.

03:59:58
Thank you Chief Patrick Michell, I am interested in the temporary cell tower that you had up and running so quickly. That seems like a great band aid for interim solutions as emergencies arise

04:00:14
FSS - kanaka is advancing aquaculture next. Kanaka has cleared and levelled the land - we now have the raw water storage and we will start with 2 tanks with greens on top (closed loops systems) estimated cost 300k) and 50K per tank in expansion.

04:00:49
Question from Ramona BaxterNNTC gave its information on evacuees to EMBC with the understanding that we would be working together on populating the data. This would help ensure that we could quickly provide resources to best help those in need. Ultimately, we did not receive the help from EMBC and thorough data was not obtained for several weeks. Next time, we will ensure we keep developing the data regardless of whether the Province helps.

04:02:18
COW - call Telus or get your own COW...we enaged (beat the crap out of Telus) because we did not know that Lytton was a hub....that services go past Kanaka and then are feed back...so when Lytton burned - we lost service.

04:03:14
To Cheryl. My father submitted receipts for losses on the Elephant Hill fire. We were the last ranch and last community to receive power. They provided us nothing. The ranch is still fighting to survive today. Huge losses

04:04:05
Thank you very much Chief Patrick, I will look into it further. I appreciate you sharing your experiences

04:04:34
and yes, the non-Indigenous ranchers received significant financial relief

04:07:41
Thank you Chief Byron! Well spoken and recieved

04:08:11
thank you chief Byron, hit the nail on the head!

04:08:25
Thank you Nick

04:10:49
To Erica Louie, our members have been undertaking traditional burns for decades with the understanding that it must be done in accordance with our traditional practices of the use of fire. We are not in discussions with the Province about undertaking traditional burns across our communal and adjacent lands

04:11:57
Thank you Dan. Chief Byron Louis mentioned "Communication". As a Health Director, when we had a wild fire in our Region, I reached out to Tahltan Nation how we in Kitsumkalum can support. Once they were able to return home. I have reached out to their Health Directors to ensure we are supporting and are there for them in the future. I like the idea of "Chief committee" please lets continue moving forward with supporting each other. When we are in Crisis.

04:12:27
FSS -permanent regional EOC or resiliency centers where professionally staffed permanent officers assist with the years extreme weather events (awareness, planning and responses) and where large quantities of food, water & temporary shelters are stored - its where you go in an emergency...

04:13:59
Thank you for your comment Kukpi7 Draney about not doing this from the cracks of our desks. Doing so was a killer for some of Coldwater staff, fulfilling their EOC responsibilities and also their day-to-day jobs. I'm hearing some commitment to advocated for fully resourced dedicated positions,: Guardians, strike teams, emergency managers. my hands up to that!

04:18:22
Thank you again Chief Byron.

04:18:32
Just a reminder that on the Town Halls over the summer, there was support for Chief Maureen Chapman to conduct a review similar to the two Abbot/Chapman reviews. this needs to be done under FN terms, not government only terms. This conversation helps build the broad mandate of the review that is required and could easily be purposed to lead to a new tripartite relation on EM.

04:19:53
as an active part of the daily on the ground support for all of the canyon communities, my hat goes off to Jason Robertson for being in the communities even during his off time. I know the members of each community has spoken of your involvement and generosity.

04:19:59
Link to agreements and reports of emergency management https://news.gov.bc.ca/stories/canada-british-columbia-and-first-nations-leadership-council-sign-tripartite-memorandum-of-understan

04:20:21
Thank you Dan for keeping us on track - hands up! Thank you to our Elder Bob Baker for calming our hearts and minds in order to do the work before us. Thanks to National Chief Roseanne for attending one of the important issues to BC leaders. My hands are up to all of the Chiefs, Kukpis and leaders for keeping this issue on the front burner. Addressing the New Normal: 21st Century Disaster Management in British Columbia first recommendation of 108 states: Establish Indigenous Peoples as true partners and leaders in emergency management by including First Nations from the beginning and at all levels of planning, decision making and implementation. This report does not have all of the answers but it certainly speaks to many of the issues raised in this meeting and previous meetings. I fully support Chief Spahan's recommendation for a Chiefs Committee for Emergency Management. Chief Maureen Chapman

04:21:21
Mussi cho Chief Maureen Chapman for sharing.

04:23:22
What worked - Jason Robertson took my texts and calls every morning and let me know during the day updates and then at the end of the day - we debriefed and signed off until tomorrow. I had Jason - thank you Jason. I'm sane today because of you (lol).

04:25:17
FNESS - maps and updates in daily emails. I thanked them every day - as I had timely meaningful information that was not Facebook gossip. Than you Brenden.

04:27:11
Thank you Chief Darrel Dranney, those are all so necessary

04:28:29
It would be helpful if everyone added their community name to their Zoom link. Semiahmoo has done it, but others could.

04:30:01
so long as we are required to respond within a colonial structure, we will always struggle.

04:30:35
Lytton rattlers are "let go" until next fire season - keep them working year round doing forest fire Hazard reductions on reserve, municipal and regional lands and FireSmarting with individuals and families. The people like jason and Chad and Scott exists to future proof our homes are already on the ground - quit letting them go as seasonal workers..

05:26:49
Are all presentations going to be distributed for everyone on the call ?

05:34:51
The planning team will make available the presentations to the participants

05:35:56
Great t ohear

05:40:07
hello, could I get someone on IT/hosting to DM me please?

05:45:13
railroads have to remove the expired ties as well as the waste brush fuels in their right of way

05:48:51
One time funding is always appreciate but somewhere we should be able to fit in where we can go back to ensure that the program/Project is successful.

05:49:41
Reminder - I suggested that our regional Fire Fighting teams (ours is the Lytton Rattlers) that are "let go" be asked to stay year round to treat lands that rated high and extreme. - on reserve, on fee simple and on ROW lands working our from homes and urban centers.

05:50:01
FNESS is amazing and the work you are doing. but I'm just wondering when will we as first nations be able to make these decisions for ourselves and not have to go through third parties to "unlock substantial funding". with reconciliation being the governments main focus we should be able to advocate for our own needs.

05:50:23
railway regulation on fire prevention https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2016-317/FullText.html

05:51:27
I don't know how to give a thumbs up in this format, but if I could 👍 Pamela's comment, I would.

05:51:36
Sorry I was on a call but wondering if anyone asked the following questions?1. How accessible is LIghtship for communities. 2. If so how do bands access it and how can bands develop capacity to utilize the LIghtship Program.

05:52:08
Getting funding through FNESS for FireSmart is a long process. There needs to be a faster less complicated way to get the funding for fuel management out to the communities faster.

05:53:14
considering Transport Canada typically "consults" with Canadian Railway Industry, Labour Organizations and Provincial Governments it is similar to what the NEB was. The NEB had too close ties to industry. they revamped that legislation to the CER Act, which distances and separates regulations from industry. we should explore a similar initiative for railway regulations

05:53:56
Why is the Union of BC Municipalities controlling Fuel Management funding targeted to First Nation communities? The community I serve (Nadleh Whut’en First Nation) have seen nothing but “administrative harassment” from the UBCM.

05:56:12
Recommendation #41 of the 2007 Railway Safety Act states "The rules of the Control and Prevention of Fires on Railway Rights of Way are neither effective nor enforced, nor do they provide for an adequate process for compensation. Since these rules involve third parties, they should be replaced with regulations.

06:14:00
It has been a concern with FN, Security and welfare of the communities, FN security check points also needs to be funded.

06:17:55
I would like to acknowledge the significant challenges the pandemic has caused and continues to cause for your Nation Kukpi7 Fred and every other Nation

06:18:48
The graph highlights EMBC received 13% for Service Agreement, what does this entail, what “services” do they provide to First Nations?

06:23:27
Part 3.3 of Bilateral DIAND 3 states: Emergency Preparedness – EMBC will ensure that First Nations are included within theprovincial preparedness programs to ensure that First Nations have complete access to anyprovided capacity building initiatives, tools and resources. These programs will be equivalent withthose that are accessible by and provided to provincial local authorities: is there a report on state of "equivalency"?

06:23:55
Web page Dave speaking to: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/safety/emergency-management/local-emergency-programs/indigenous-emergency-operations

06:25:46
Great question Tyrone

06:33:56
The purpose of this MOU is to establish a process whereby the parties can workcollectively to advance meaningful recognition and enhanced capacity of FirstNations within all pillars of emergency management (i.e., preparedness, mitigation,response and recovery

06:39:27
Is there a list of members on the TWG? Does the TWG report out? Thanks

06:40:44
I need to step out for a few minutes. I am impressed with the symposium. Great work everyone in getting all of us into this virtual space!

06:43:37
How much funding will be apportioned to First Nations through the Trilateral Agreement?

06:48:03
followup to Robert Phillips comments We should also include BNSF railway (USA owned rail company) should be included with CN and CP

06:50:46
How can we improve EM services to First Nations?• How could communication be improved?What other structures or processes are needed?• We know we can do better – what are the steps to achieve that?

06:52:14
Re: Abbot/Chapman Report - Indigenous, community and professional knowledge - Recommendation 31 - Establish pathways for collaboration with First Nations to enable the integration of traditional ecological knowledge with Western science. Ensure risk modelling is built upon a greater understanding of the land base, values and practices of First Nations. Rationale: We believe that traditional and local knowledge can complement and strengthen western science.

06:56:20
Name Organization or CommunityJaimi Gardner ISCKen McDames Jr. KitselasDonna Aljam Nicomen BandEdna Boston Xatśūll First NationChief Maureen Luggi Westbank First NationTim McCann ISCLindsay Tighe Lower Nicola BandDarryl Adrian Lillooet Tribal CouncilMargaret Charlie Sts'ailes NationAnthony Moore Nisga'a Lisims GovernmentPaul GadboisPaul Sam Red CrossJuan Cereno Nadleh Whut'enPaul Gadbois Semiahmoo First NationRon Lampreau Jr Simpcw First NationAlison Lomon Ktunaxa NationHugh Braker Tseshaht First NationBrian Moore Tsilhqot'in National GovernmentJamie Jeffreys EMBCJaime Sanchez BCAFNColin Braker FNSLinda Morven Gitwinksihlkw First NationJeremiah Louis Takla Lake First NationWayne Schnitzler FNESSDean Colthorp FNESSSarah Kent FNESSBeth Herie EMBCKayla Pepper EMBCRuth Fernandes EMBCDave Peterson EMBCCarol McClintock EMBC

06:56:58
Pardon the formatting issue!

06:57:38
Char Etzerza EMBC

06:57:59
Nicole Norris EMBC

06:58:18
ƛ`eekoo ƛ`eekoo

06:58:56
please provide FNESS with contact information and we will help you.

06:58:57
Jeremiah Louis TAKLA NATION

06:59:53
What is the meaning of consent - a favorite question of mine to Canada and BC's AG. I point out Article 32(2) of DRIPA. I now have started sharing "Let Justice prevail though the heavens may fall" as a way of highlighting inherent jurisdiction - if Canada and BC can not say no - then the indigenous people will bear the brunt of a no - you cant do that. That's will happen if the land or resource use (past, present and future) exacerbates Climate Change and Extreme weather events. Now - if you want to talk about projects and programs that are harm reversal, harm reduction and exemplify transition, adaption, resiliency and collaboration - now that's going to get a yes.

07:00:59
Recognizing jurisdiction must at some point address enforcement and adjudication. Is bridging the legislation gap on reserve, let alone territory, being brought along in these negotiations?

07:03:26
Flooding is the next big threat for all communities who have already suffered so much with the fires.... Skeetchestn has already seen flooding, and the evacuation only ended 3 months ago

07:06:24
I have to step away to take a call and I will rejoin thank you.

07:07:01
chief nelson you there

07:11:54
Hawa'a Chief Lee! The EOC's from all the FN communities need to be heard as we where the ones having to deal with the outcome of all the decisions made from government agencies regarding our communities. All the meetings we where gaslite in for hours about services and government responses. OMVC ESD is very grateful for Jaimi Gardner for allowing a space to communicate with each other for the last 20 months. We need to be able to communicate with each other to serve our communities better and on a larger scale. All those that join the meeting have helped each other with many issues. The best part is there is no red tape to do this. HAWA'A

07:12:04
The deeper conversation on FN participation needs to be with all FN interested

07:13:36
Thank you Kukpi7 Spahan for your question regarding funding surrounding the Guardian Program. Enclosed, please find a link for the funding program. For more information, please contact the Indigenous Guardians Pilot team by email at ec.gardiensautochtones-indigenousguardians.ec@canada.ca. https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/environmental-funding/indigenous-guardians-pilot.html

07:15:00
I need to step off for about 15 mins for granpa duties. gotta pick up granboys and drop them off at baby sitter. I will be back (think of that in Arnold's voice)

07:16:23
Moving forward capacity building for EM for each community needs to be considered as essential and supported as well. There are all of these funding opportunities for mitigation and preparedness yet no support (in the form of a funded community based EPC positions) to manage and administer the funds, thus this work tends to fall of the desk. A conversation also needs to be held regarding recovery activities, specifically timber harvesting and the process for inclusion of FN and our concerns.

07:16:50
Hawa'a Jaimi!

07:17:09
Meduh

07:18:55
`And not forget the Independent bands that believe in Preparedness and prevention.

07:21:09
I received in the mail "a yellow tie" - the eternal flame of optimism is back :)

07:21:25
Please email me if anyone needs further information. cbrass@fns.bc.ca

07:21:47
feels like the north is left out

07:22:25
Haaw'a everyone for all the great work

07:22:32
Thank you Dan

07:22:34
Thank you all for a great day!

07:22:36
O'Siem, to all thank you for sharing and your time!

07:22:37
Thank you

07:22:42
Have a safe night everyone