If you have any questions, please feel free to put them in the chat!

is there a link to these graphics? It's hard to read in the slide?

Matt, move to slideshow view, please for larger view.

Is there a way to zoom into the graphics? maybe use presenter mode?

Here is the link where you can download the full report: https://citizensandscholars.org/initiatives/mapping-civic-measurement/

When we look at the skills, knowledge and experiences, I think it is helpful to think of this as a civic career that develops over time and based on one's life stage.

Do you distinguish between civic work focused on elections (and changes to election systems) and civic work on volunteer action or other items that are "less political"?

Was just discussing this yesterday as the idea bubbled up of needing to do an inventory of civic opportunities in NE Ohio

I would love to see Community Knowledge Commons hosted by every land-grant institution to resolve those measurement desert issues!!

Key to look at relationship of voting and civic engagement. Varies by age, generation

This point seems to align with the PACE Civic Language Perceptions Project http://www.pacefunders.org/language-register/

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Here is the link where you can download the full report: https://citizensandscholars.org/initiatives/mapping-civic-measurement/

The History Perceptions Gap work from More in Common might help with the "gaps". https://www.historyperceptiongap.us/resources

Amazing research & visualizations! Could you talk more about how you hope folks will use these maps to refine their definitions (and measurement) of citizenship & civic engagement?

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Would be great to have live links to measurement tools.

any thought around making this a searchable database that researchers can check before starting research? love this table but would hate to see it left in an appendix!

Would be great to have live links to measurement tools.Here is a link to Citizens and Scholars' Resource Hub!

https://citizensandscholars.org/civic-learning/

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We would love to put the measurement tools on https://participedia.net/, an open access searchable database documenting democratic innovations.

I'm interested in what the boundaries of "citizenship" ("civic readiness" and "civic opportunities") are and its relationship to "social cohesion" which is the main construct that groups in the bridge building and peace building fields aim to meausure.

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Love participedia! This would be a terrific collaboration for hosting tools.

I will look closely at the report, but this brief look at the wheels has raised some questions for me. The splintering of defining citizenship comes across clearly. What is less clear to me is how democracy is defined, and where it fits in the overall conceptualization of the civic. Democracy embodies values, and values seem to be missing. The reference to “equity” seems to be the first reference to values related to democracy. Where do democratic values show up in the wheels.

How does this report and underlying material compare to work in other parts of the world? I am thinking about deliberative polling and its use in many places.

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I see values listed in the "Civic Readiness" wheel, in the "Believe" section

CHI Hub: https://ncoc.org/category/research/

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Hi Jeff! Yes, I am on and in listening and learning mode. Great to see you

I agree with the idea of measuring quality, but we need to be careful. Quality standard risk to kill frugal initiatives and bottom up initiatives from newbies for lack of a better term. So when we setup evaluation we need to make sure to have a dynamic approach that incentivizes people to grow and does not generate negative incentives for low resources environments. Many examples of standard in development/pedagogy having unforeseen consequences to learn from (think about the debate around merit).

Appreciate the shoutout to the Current Population Survey Civic Engagement and Volunteering Supplement (CEV) AmeriCorps sponsors and is collected by the U.S. Census Bureau. The dataset is publicly available here https://data.americorps.gov/browse?q=cev&sortBy=last_modified&utf8=%E2%9C%93

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This splendid and pioneering effort seems to me to contain the seeds of solutions to the problem of ideological and partisan division you point to:“ As we work through the process of co-creating a shared identity for those who work in civic learning” (p. 9, From Civic Education to a Civic Learning Ecosystem)Conveys the idea of civic workers and educators – citizens of this field – as citizen co-creators, shaping the story and broadly the common world. This is very similar to the Civic Studies concept of citizens as co-creators of communities at different scales, don’t you think?Harry Boyte

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I may be wrong, but I think deliberative polling would be placed under "Citizen assemblies & survey panels", under "Public decision making", under "Participate" in the "Civic Opportunities" wheel.

Connecting to CHI, In New Hampshire we (Carsey School of Public Policy and New Hampshire Listens) are launching our work to help people look at their local civic health. https://carsey.unh.edu/calendar-event/74901

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References and suggests connections to a lot of work from folks I see in attendance.

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This is embodied specifically in THird Way CIvics, based on learning sites as free spaces, and a plural understanding of the American democratic experience. Third Way Civics is proving very successful in both conservative and progressive settings, by putting students at the center engaging primary sources of many different views on key moments in American history and co-creators of the story.

I appreciate that you've distinguished between civic readiness and civic opportunities at the national level. I'd love to delve into how regional readiness/opportunities look at the local & regional levels.

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It depends on "free spaces" where there is not a singular line, and "citizen teachers" who open and create the spaces and co-creative pedagogy

So how do we generate or re-generate organizations and opportunities for our K-12 and K-16. This could be a conference in and of itself.

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Yes. You are all welcome to view our work and our monthly webinars for teachers: nvcce.org/asktheexpert

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We also provide Professional Learning Communities for all grades of Social Studies teachers nvcce.org

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Here's a piece in Inside Higher Education by Throntveit and Levine which describes Third Way CIvics https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2022/05/04/third-way-civics-new-model-civic-education-opinion

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Replying to "I will look closely ..."I see values listed in the "Civic Readiness" wheel, in the "Believe" section

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Replying to "How does this report..."I may be wrong, but I think deliberative polling would be placed under "Citizen assemblies & survey panels", under "Public decision making", under "Participate" in the "Civic Opportunities" wheel.

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In New York State we have a new graduation requirement for civic readiness (K-12) but don't necessarily have the structures for it.

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I'm interested in the distinction between "datasets" and "tools." Can you please say more about that?

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Replying to "I'm interested in th..."I think that an example of a tool is a survey question, or a survey questionnaire. An example of a dataset is a collection of responses to that survey.

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HURRAH FOR COMMUNITY FOUNDATIONS!

public libraries?

I was thinking the same think Nancy - libraries

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Thanks, there are several librarians here. We are working hard to position ourselves more centrally within the community.

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Public schools in that same vein. They themselves are incubator of democracy.

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Thanks to Jeff for illuminating libraries - the forthcoming special issue of Library Quarterly on the civic role of libraries had many essays on this theme, from many different perspectives.

public schools are essential. Unfortunately getting more difficult for them to do so.

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Local newsrooms and libraries and community foundations - a triad of nonpartisan information and education

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As part of putting on candidate debates, we have engaged high school and college students and hear anecdotally how those experiences are affecting students. Is that kind of engagement measured by any of the tools?

Here is the link where you can download the full report: https://citizensandscholars.org/initiatives/mapping-civic-measurement/Citizens and Scholars Resource Hub: https://citizensandscholars.org/civic-learning/

(a scan of the tools in the civic opp map tools section didn’t seem to)

https://participedia.net/

NDI would love this work

Replying to "We would love to put..."Hi Paul, as Matt just said, we'd love to connect with you if Participedia might be able to link to the report!

Replying to "We would love to put..."I look forward to the continued collaboration, it would be no trouble at all to link to the report!

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There is also a vital history of cross-ideological civic learning to unearth and draw on. THe citizenship schools of the civil rights movement has this quality with a strong focus on civic agency, and they drew on a largely unknown but immense movement of 5,300 Rosenwald schools and 10,000 libraries in Black communities which were very powerful civic learning centers. Here's a recent webinar on this history from FOrmer Members of Congress https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/play/2TumWflTeXTBvLOCQxRpxj910GlDLGINi_VioFmgJB6hUW_rKoFpJUS69mj8rrgBWQJk3cM2EC_aSuby.7FP9SV8kInKHNv4n?continueMode=true&_x_zm_rtaid=QiwXdWkTRd6_eZN3JQDntA.1677680694567.873661dcfabd86d709de9c593f8f70b9&_x_zm_rhtaid=0

I am from Trinidad and Tobago and listening to these forums from the NCoC gives me encouragement to want to try some of these projects in Trinidad if anyone is interested.

I am working with a group that may try to map "social cohesion" metrics with a global outlook, if any are interested in helping / learning from that endeavor.

I would be interested in hearing - from your point of view and experience - what is the single most effective thing public institutions can do in terms of civic opportunities to increase engagement?

Replying to "(a scan of the tools..."Jill, I recommend looking at the measures used in McKinney and Rill (2009) and the works they cite, and similar studies that cite them: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10510970903110001

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Thanks @Robert Richards

There is a good deal of civic studies type scholarship which illustrates how important the public work of co-creating and sustaining "commons" is for cohesion that is not reductive but pluralist

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PACE Civic Language Perceptions Project: http://www.pacefunders.org/language-register/

@Robert - Mitchell McKinney is a good friend to our work, thanks for that link

This discussion highlights the ways different jurisdictions think about the nature of community and the relationship between the various tiers of government. we are all seeing different parts of the elephant. There is value in seeing the entire beast!~

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PLURALISM WAS AN UNKNOWN TO MANY.

Has your research looked at the specific skills that our public schools could be developing in students that would prepare them to be citizens?

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Replying to "I am working with a ..."Great. julia@civichealthproject.org

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PACE tool is incredible.

The youth civic learning and empowerment initiative Public Achievement has a good deal of assessment showing effective in cultivating dispositions and skills of agency

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Replying to "I am working with a ..."same, Julia - Malka@civity.org - would love to keep in touch about that.

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Love this conversation and applaud your contributions in this report! As part of this ongoing conversation about language and conceptualizing "the civic," AmeriCorps is hosting a webinar on March 15 that may be of interest. All are welcome https://americorps.gov/webinar/what-civic-engagement-exploring-new-paradigms

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An informative read: "Deliberative Pedagogy in Elementary Schools" in Kettering's 2022 Connections

On Public Achievement's cultivation of civic agency, the essay describes some of the research https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ793192

We have found that the terms citizen and citizenship are problematic for our new Americans who only understand this as the process of gaining US citizenship, not as an act of civic responsibility. Some of our efforts are around teaching new Americans in Buffalo to be active in their communities and have to be careful about the language we use for that reason!

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https://www.academia.edu/37904893/Evaluating_Young_Peoples_Civic_Agency On assessing development of civic agency

Great beginning. Many thanks

Next steps

Thanks - great discussion. what next for ICS and NCoC and others?

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This was great. Tremendous report. Thanks for the opportunity to learn more about what went into its creation.

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Very grounding - appreciate this work

Here is the link where you can download the full report: https://citizensandscholars.org/initiatives/mapping-civic-measurement/

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I appreciate your work and this conversation!

There’s also the matter of people in public service not always being supportive of the expansion of participation by citizens in their public service work

Melvin Rogers concept of "aspirational citizenship" from his forthcoming book on Black political thought and experience (The Darkened Light of Faith, Princeton, September) is very generative

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Replying to "We have found that t..."Thanks for raising this point. In my experience, when invited and made to feel belonging, non-citizens are some of the best citizens I've ever worked with.

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https://citizensandscholars.org/

ncoc.org

https://ncoc.org

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Yes, I would be interested in hearing/thinking more about the interaction b/t the two wheels! Thanks for this event and looking forward to reading the report!

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Replying to "We have found that t..."so true!!!! Our neighbors really want to be engaged but citizenship is not a term that makes sense to many about what that means!

Great discussion - thank you

Fascinating and totally needed discussion. Thank you! Love the idea of libraries, particularly for rural communities…I’ve done outreach in very small, rural towns. They all had a library. Thank you rural libraries!

Thanks to all the authors and orgs for their work on this very important issue! Appreciate this presentation

Thank you!!

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Thank you!!